Fly Line Setup with No Knots!

Louie the Fish doesn't like Nail Knots, a very common knot for tying your leader to your fly line. He demonstrated a good way to put loops at the ends of your fly line for a strong connection to your backing and to your leader. He also shows you a good knot for attaching the backing to the fly line...

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[STMN69]

LOVE this video !!! seen it a way back,was gonna try this out, but didn't ,sooo glad I found it again :)

Thanks for the great video !!

[KettlebottomCrew]

@STMN69 No problem, glad we could help!

[Onlyme0422]

What is the name of the little metal device with the thread spool in the middle? 

[KettlebottomCrew]

@Onlyme0422 That is called a thread bobbin, available at any store that sells fly tying tools...

[kyle250ify]

What can you use to wrap the loop? I am new to fly fishing and liking this idea. Thanks!

[KettlebottomCrew]

@kyle250ify Louie uses regular fly tying thread-- use a strong thread for salwater/big fish. This technique allows for very easy leader changes without trimming the end off the fly line. Best of luck with flyfishing-- it's a lot of fun!!

[KiraleeStrange]

thanks for the video helped me out alot.

[rtroutbumm]

Americans behind the times give me a break! I've heard it all now.

[The2ndToLastViking]

I like the method. I gave it a try this spring and put it to the test on blues and stripers this summer, it performed flawlessly. The only thing I did differently was use a flexible fletching glue from my archery gear, which is much nicer than superglue going through the guides. Sure it takes 5 minutes...once. It will definitely save time in the long run.

As to the comment about we in the U.S. being behind the times. It was a good natured jab, not an insult. Smile and get over it.

[sewashoe]

5 minutes to whip and glue this garbage knot or use a 10 second nail knot. Thats 4 minutes and 50 seconds longer of actual fishing. I've been fishing stripers for 15 years and have yet for a nail knot to fail before the leader so don't say they fail for larger fish. I guess America is primitive because what we use actually works so why change.

[YTSIRHC58]

Saltwater nail knots are smaller and go through the guides much easier, unless you use over 30lb. test tippet, which nobody does or should do, they will NOT faail. Loop your backing to your fly lines with a Bimini twist and to your arbor. This guy reels backwards to put on his line..... That cheap plastic reel I would not use for bones either.....

[StcroixNick]

@KettlebottomCrew yeah maybe, as for myself I use fly lien with integrated loops in them, and I use the albright knot for the backing to the fly line, and it nerver broke during fishing. . well everyone have his habitudes and tricks, thanks for sharing guys

[KettlebottomCrew]

@StcroixNick Braided loops work well for a couple seasons but are definitely prone to slipping off, losing your leader, fly, and fish-- it's happened to me twice. The loops Louie makes last for several seasons and it's very easy to see if they need to be replaced...

[StcroixNick]

Well I find it better to put a braided loop, and now most of fly line comes with integrated loop a the end of them we're not that late in fly fishing sir

[urbanflyman36]

it dont work my freind beien trying it out and the tip always sinks and pulls the dry fly under.

[KettlebottomCrew]

@angiediazo For Bluegills, small Trout and Largemouth Bass, the Nail Knot is OK. Because Louie targets large Hawaii Bonefish and HUGE New Zealand trout (often over 10 pounds and up to 20 pounds) and we target large fish such as Striped Bass, Bluefish, and Tuna, we need a stronger connection that will not foul in the top guide during a strong run. The loop connection that Louie uses is far superior to the Nail KNot for these species...

Thanks for watching!!

[angiediazo]

"Of course, America is a little bit behind the rest of the world"......what a retard!

Nice technique and finish, I guess. It only takes about three minutes to do it......vs. the nail knot, which is time tested and still holds true....and takes about 15 seconds to tie.

[KettlebottomCrew]

@maccaetube I would personally think that mono may slip, especially if applied to a slippery line. Thread would also be prone to slipping, which is why Louie roughs up the outer coating prior to starting. Is the outer coating on the intermediate (intermediate sinking line I assume??) able to be roughed up? Louie said Acetone (or nail polish remover) is another way to soften the outer coating on fly lines if scraping doesn't work right.

[maccaetube]

Great video thanks. Would this work on a clear intermediate, but using a thin/low lb mono?

[KettlebottomCrew]

@CymrilBlade Yes, it's regular fly tying thread. There are many choices for diameter/strength, however, and I think Louie uses a heavy thread meant for tying saltwater flies.

[CymrilBlade]

Is that regular fly tying thread? or do you use something else?

[dandotreillydot42058]

@KettlebottomCrew i agree.. i use perfection on on blue gill and bass ... ill try this set up when i go stiper ffishing this spring because i have had stripers and blue fish actually break at the knot

[KettlebottomCrew]

@dandotreillydot42058 Perfection Loops were mentioned by others in their comments. The species we target locally (bonito, mahi, small Tunas, and large Stripers) and the Bonefish Louie targets make such fast, powerful runs that Perfection loops have the potential to foul in the guides and could result in lost fish. For freshwater or smaller fish, they work great, but for fast, powerful fish, whipped loops like Louie's are the way to go...

[dandotreillydot42058]

or you could use a perfection loop like i do

[sjs28075]

@KettlebottomCrew Thanks I asked him, it's a bobbin threader