CLAUDIO ARRAU - Chopin Etude no.12 op.25

CLAUDIO ARRAU - Chopin Etude no.12 op.25

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• no.12
• op.25

[DualThunder]

i agree. I dont get how other people do not realise this. They fail to realise that chopin's etudes stretch far further than just mere studies, they are works of art, and real pieces of music. Chopin's etudes are not just about technical development, they are about artistry, phrasing and musicianship also.

[manhattanvor]

Misunderstands? THIS IS a study in FORTE arpeggios. Can't you read?. Starts F and is thus marked until the end. It is then FFF. I guess the cresc-decresc has you confused. One can do that between F-FFF! Those that scamper lightly and rapidly through this piece are faking. That's what Arrau's recording is about. Each etude is an exercise, after all, and is meant to single out certain difficulties. 25#12, is ABOUT maintaining a forte sound. Does the score say MF, MP or P? NO it does not.

[robert982]

@dancersover40 Hi, could you cite your perfered interpretation? Thanks.

[cziffra1980]

@arturon111 In fact, the pedalling is so bloody awful here that the melodic line frequently doesn't even sustain long enough to come anywhere near connecting to the next note! To suggest that this approach makes lines clearer is ridiculous.And voicing the accompaniment with some sensitivity doesn't have to mean being unclear.

[cziffra1980]

@arturon111 So where are all the melodic lines here? They are lost in a swarm of banged notes. Your idea of bringing out melodic lines is to pummel every individually note forcefully and percussively?

[arturon111]

@cziffra1980 disagree with you, this etude has/needs voicing of melodic lines, just like bach's music does (after all this etude was inspired by bach, whom chopin admred/liked above all) that doesnt mean to bang the melody and play eveythingsofterand notclear. this is a BIG mistake in interpretation . arrau folows te score and there result is uniqe and PHENOMENAL

[arturon111]

@pianoplejer are you comparing yourself to arrau, keep dreaming !

[arturon111]

@LeonardThePianist DISAGREE. ARRAU IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY LEVEL TO HOROWITZ. TECHNICALLY, CLARITY, LEGATO, EVENESS, AND OF COURSE, SPIRITUALLY AND SOULWISE

[gerardbedecarter]

Arrau's pedalling is a little strange!

[gerardbedecarter]

@manhattanvor  .... the forte is acoustic not physiological.

[Dnich1000]

Chopin took studies that nobody would have ever wanted to do, and he wrote the exercises as we now know as his etudes. What he did in addition, is that he took theses studies and made them much more than studies, he made them into masterpieces. That's what people need to take away from his etudes.

[dagadbm]

@manhattanvor *sigh*