Boulez - Sur Incises (extract) - Ensemble InterContemporain

Pierre Boulez conducts one of his pieces, entitled Sur Incises. With the Ensemble InterContemporain. For 3 pianos, 3 harps, and 3 mallet percussion instruments. Taken from the DVD "Éclat". In my opinion, these aren't the greatest camera angles.

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[KunkkaFart]

Umm so... is this some sort of pastiche? Sounds a lot like some of Alberto Ginastera's works.

[jre58591]

@KunkkaFart Uhh, no. What makes you think that? It couldn't be further from a pastiche. It is completely original.

[ypoonsus]

I agree. I would never for a moment doubt Boulez as a conductor - his performances of Debussy are amongst the best ever. But his pronouncements on music and musicians leave a very sour taste in the mouth.

Boulez tried to do the same thing that the Russian State did in the thirties and forties but in reverse  - if it didn't please him, it was not to be played.

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[physphilmusic]

@sweeney665 Well the reality is that what happened in the 20th century, like the commercialization of music, only served to encourage movements which try to become more and more intellectual. I mean you cannot fault them. And I strongly believe that although the best kind of composer is one who can find a perfect balance between experimentation and emotional appeal, most people can't do that, and that doesn't mean that they should be thought of as trash.

[ad80ad]

The very funny thing is that Boulez was often contested for being too much "intolerant" towards neotonal-neoclassical composers...when the most harshly intolerant towards atonal-expressionist-dodecapho­nic music were (and are) exactly those "pseudo-romantics" who like very much playing the role of the victim. See many comments on these you tube videos. It's always so funny for me to see this musical nazis crying for freedom, as to say the opposite thing of what they represent.

[chairrest35]

@thepotatovagina. You may want to see someone about the anger problems. Most people in the classical music world will miss Boulez deeply. If he is laughed at why have great musicians such as Barenboim, Aimard, Pollini, Abbado, Rattle to name but a few championed his works?

[malgray2]

I think this is great!

[Hartcomposer]

This is some of the greatest music I have ever heard. (and for you conservative idiots Boulez has made an incredible rendition of Beethoven's ninth and other pieces)

[donprudenzio]

@physphilmusic That doesn't mean I consider it 'bad' music (speaking of wrong notes! I'm just joking), it simply leaves me cold.

[donprudenzio]

@physphilmusic I agree with you completely, but serialism (and all of it's variations) isn't of course the only answer. That would be a very unhistorical view on the history of western music. Even despite the fact that Boulez thinks his music is the most legitimate kind of music. In the case of his music I also definitely feel emotion, that of complete indifference. That's also a very important emotion.

[thepotatovagina]

This sullen old twerp will never go down with Schubert and Brahms. you can be sure of that. he only obtained fame by his bullying tactics and "look at me" antics (outrageous comments, etc.) the 1950s to the present day will be seen as the era of pretentious clowns (him and cockhausen especially) and laughed at. even today people laugh. most of the people in the classical music scene are just waiting for this old cocksucker to die so they can celebrate his death, and at 85, it won't be long now.

[KunkkaFart]

@jre58591 Well, theres just something about it, especially at 4:10 to the end of the video(what happened to the rest of it anyway?) that sounded quite familiar. Both Boulesz and Ginatera are, ocourse, very original composers.