WallBuilders Rick Green Demo
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oh yes, and don't forget Cindy Jacobs the prophet. Oh yes, she named herself a prophet herself, gets messages from some spirit, and says she is holy. People, wake up!! this is no different then Tammy and Jim Baker. You are all being mislead and these people are making mucho money off of your backs.
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listen to brannon howse - christian worldview network and hear what a phoney this man is, as well as David Barton. They just make up facts, and then say them like they are real. Stop trying to turn our country into a theocracy. Keep this crap in your false church.
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garbage propaganda
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@jfsfrnd The Founders never intended for the INFLUENCE of Christianity to be separated from any part of government. It's completely illogical to infer such an idea when most of the Founders were devout Christians.
Many are "Christian" in name only today, but it wasn't like that in the 1700s. If they were a Christian they lived like it, for the most part. One must be careful not to apply today's Christianity to 1700s Christianity.
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@pmiller1967 James Madison, Detached Memoranda
ca. 1817W. & M. Q., 3d ser., 3:554--60 1946
''Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history. . .''
Separation between Religion and Govt is the same as separation of church and state.
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@pmiller1967 He said it but used different words.
No distinction seems to be more obvious than that between spiritual and temporal matters. Yet whenever they have been made objects of Legislation, they have clashed and contended with each other, till one or the other has gained the supremacy."
[James Madison in a letter to Thomas Jefferson Oct-Nov 1787]
Spiritual and temporal matters are the same as church and state.
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and that one or more of the Clergy of the City be requested to officiate in that service.
Benjamin Franklin
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our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments be Human Wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.
I therefore beg leave to move, that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business,
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And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings, that "except the Lord build the House they labour in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests;
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All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a Superintending providence in our favor. To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth- that God governs in the affairs of men.
Saw this guy in person! Awesome speaker!!! LEarned a ton!
5smct 1 year ago 4
I find it ironic that you relegate Barton's 100,000 Founding books and documents to the "obscure," when you probably ardently march to the beat of the modern "Separation of Church and State" minstrels who proclaim their favorite phrase as "Constitutional,"; the said phrase being found in an equally obscure LETTER from Jefferson to a bunch of Baptists.
So tell me how Barton's enormous & RELEVANT library is obscure & that which (is claimed) to defend what you believe isn't?
pmiller1967 2 years ago 4