THIS IS MY DAUGHTERS MODERN LIONEL O GAUGE TRAIN SET OUTFIT #6-30118 MADE IN 2010 THIS SET IS BASED OFF THE HIT MGM CHRISTMAS MOVIE CALLED A CHRISTMAS STORY MADE BACK IN 1983 THIS IS A REMAKE VIDEO OF THIS LIONEL TRAIN SET THIS TIME WITH A NEW POSTWAR TYPE FLUID HEATING ELEMENT FOR THE SMOKE UNIT WHICH IS MUCH BETTER HEATING ELEMENT LIONEL USES TODAY IN THERE STARTER SETS THET DOSNT HEAT UP ENOUGH TO MAKE A NICE AMOUNT OF SMOKE OR THEY DONT SMOKE AT ALL AND THAT WAS THE CASE WITH THIS SET IT DIDNT SMOKE FROM THE TIME IT WAS BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX WHENT I OPEN THE ENGINE UP AND TOOK THE CAP OFF TO SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE THERE WAS THIS VERY LARGE BLUE GLOSS LOOKING RESISTOR THERE FOR A HEATING ELEMENT WITH NO WICK AROUND IT SO THERE WAS NOWAY FLUID COULD SOAK ON IT AND HEAT UP I CHECKED THE WIREING AND THE ON OFF SWITCH THAT IV EVEN SEEN BEFORE BUT ITS NOT THIS IS SOMTHING IV EVRY SEEN BEFORE IN ANY OF LIONELS O ENGINES SO I REPLACED IT WITH A GOOD QTY POSTWAR TYPE FLUID HEATING ELEMENT THAT IS THE SAME SIZE CAP IN ALL THE STARTER POSWAT MPC AND MODERN ERS STEAM ENGINES THAT FITS RIGHT IN AND YOU WIRE UP THE TWO NEG- AND POS+ WIRES ONE THING I NOTICE THE BETTER THE GROUND THE MORE HEAT YOU WILL GET OUT OF THESE HEATING ELEMENTS SO THATS IS ALL FIX NOW AND SMOKES PRETTY GOOD THIS SET COMES WITH A VERY NICT SET OF 4 CHRISTMAS ROLLING STOCK FREIGHT CARS THEY HAVE DIECAST METAL WHEEL TRUCKS AND METAL KNUCKLE CUPLERS SO ITS A NICELY MADE SET OF RAIL CARS THAT WOULD LOOK GOOD JUST ABOUT BEHIDE ANY O GAUGE ENGINE CHRISTMAS TYPE TRAIN YOU WANT MAKE UP BUT I CANT SAY THAT FOR THE FOR THE #1730 0-8-0 STEAMER AND COAL TENDER AS OF ERALY DECEMBER 2011 THIS SET WAS GOING TO BE THE SET UNDER THE CHRISTMAS TREE BUT THE #1730 0-8-0 ENGINE HAS LOCKED UP AFTER RUNNING FOR ABOUT 10 OR SO MINUTES AND I REOPENED IT UP TO CHECK ALL THE WIREING AND THE MOTOR BUT I CANT SEEM TO FIND WHAT IS CAUSEING THISE TO TAKE PLACE THE ENGINE I THINK IS VERY CHEAPLY MADE IT HAS A DIECAST METAL ENGINE SHELL BUT THE BOTTOM FRAME THAT HOLDS EVERYTHING IN ITS DRIVE TRAIN IS MADE OF THIN PLASTIC IF FACT WHEN I REPLACED THE HEATING ELEMENT HAD THE SHELL OFF WITH IT HOOKED UP TO JUST THE TENDER TO PULL AS A TEST RUN IT TO MAKE SURE EVERTHING IS IN GOOD WORKING ORDER SO WITHOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE METAL SHELL ON THE FRAME IT WAS UNABLE COULDNT PULL JUST THE TENDER THATS PRETTY BAD I ALSO BELIEVE ALL THE GEARING HAS TO BE MADE OF PLASTIC AS WELL AND THATS WHAT I THINK HAPENED HERE ONE OF THOSE PLASTIC GEARS BROKE AND IS NOW JAMMED IN BETWEEN THE OTHER GEARS INSIDE AND NOT LETTING THE WHEELS TURN MORE THE A 1/4" OF A TURN WHICH THERE MADE OF PLASTTIC ASWELL WITH METAL RINGS AROUND THEM SO THERE MUST BE AT LEASE ONE DRIVE WHEELS WITH THE METAL RING AND TAB AND SOME HOW TO BE ABLE TO TOUCH THE METAL AXEL TO MAKE A NEG- GROUND CONETION FROM THE OUTER RAILS AND ITS POWERED BY LIONELS SMALLEST FLYWHEEL CAN MOTOR IV EVER SEEN IN ANY O GAUGE ENGINE IN FACT ITS THE SAME FLYWHEEL CAN MOTOR THAT LIONEL USES IN ALL OF THERE #1 0-6-0 O GAUGE THOMAS THE TANK ENGINES WHICH IS A SMALL ENGINE BUT THIS FLYWEEL CAN MOTOR IS MENT AND GOOD FOR THE 0-6-0 THOMAS STEAMERS BUT IS NOT MENT TO BE IN ANYTHING BIGGER THEN THAT LIKE THIS 0-8-0 ENGINE AND THIS SOMEWHAT HEAVY TENDER WITH ELECTRONIC WHISTLE THAT TO ME KINDA SOUNDS LIKE A HIGHER PITCH OF THE GG1 HORN BUT ITS GOT SOME WEIGHT TO IT AND THEN ITS PULLING 4 HEAVIER FREIGHT CARS ITS JUST TO SMALL OF A FLYWHEEL CAN MOTOR FOR THESE 0-8-0 ENGINES BUT I TESTED THE MOTOR ANYWAY AND ITS WORKS FINE AND THERE NO SHORT IN THE ENGINE BECAUSE THE LIONEL CW-80 TRANSFORMERS HAVE A SAFETY RELAY IS CASES THERES A SHORT THE TRANSFORMER WILL RIGHT THEN SHUT IS SELF DOWN AND THE GREEN LIGHT WILL START BLINKING IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A ELECTRICAL SHORT WHICH THERE ISNT TRIPING OFF THIS SET HAS LESS THEN 45 MINUTES OF RUNNING TIME ON IT AND I JUST INVESTED AROUND $10 INTO THE SMOKE UNIT ITS STILL IS A FAILY NEW SET BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ONE MONTH OVER PASS THE 12 MONTH DATE WHEN I PAID FOR IT IN NOVEMBER OF 2010 LIONEL WILL NOT COVER IF I WANT THEN TO FIX IT FOR ROUND TRIP SHIPING AND PARTS AND LABOR WOULD BE COMEING OUT OF MY POCKETS IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO PAY FOR ANOTHER 1730 ENGINE THAT GOS FOR AROUND AN AVG OF $60 NEW ON EBAY SO WHAT IM GOING TO DO IS COMPLETLY AND VERY CAREFULLY OPEN UP THE FRAME AND SEE WHAT IS IT THATS CAUSEING THE ISSUE IF I CANT SOMEHOW FIX OR RIG IT TO RUN AGAIN BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE THE TENDER & FREIGHT CARS AND PUT THEM IN MY BOX ALL LOSE MIX TENDERS FREIGHT & PASSENGER CARS FOR MY SELF I JUST GOT THIS SET FOR MY DAUGHTER LAST YEAR SO ITS ONLY FAIR TRY AND FIX IT FOR HER IT WOULD BE BETTER JUST TO BUY ANOTHER 0-8-0 ENGINE THEY SAY THE NYC FLYER 0-8-0 COMES WITH A METAL FRAME AND A LARGER FLYWHEEL CAN MOTORS SO IF THATS THE CASES IL BUY A NYC 0-8-0 AND USE THE BOTTOM HALF OF THAT GOT A METAL FRAME WITH EVERYTHING READY TO RUN AND IF I HAVE TO CUSTOM DRILL THE HOLES FOR THE 4 SCREWS
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I bought this set last year for my younger sister and her then unborn son to run through her Christmas village. The smoke unit in that set put out about the same volume of smoke as the unit in my Legacy SD-70Ace (#28333), so I never thought much of the low smoke output. Now, comparing it to my Mikado Jr. (#38644, smokes like your set in the video), it does put out a LOT less smoke. Maybe I should just convert them all to MTH smoke units (the best I've seen in my limited time in the hobby).
mydartswinger 2 months ago
@mydartswinger ya mth has one of the best smoke units iv very seen you could di that or just replace the heating element with a better one like i did that would be much cheaper to do then to buy proto smoke units and then you dont know if its going to fit or not
grizzleybearz282004 2 months ago
@grizzleybearz282004
There's a video here on YouTube where a guy put a ProtoSmoke unit into a Hogwarts Express (along with RailSounds and TMCC). Unfortunately, it wouldn't "chuff", it just blew out mass amounts of smoke in a steady stream.
mydartswinger 2 months ago
@mydartswinger i did see that one it sounds great but i would want the engine to puff out the smoke thats why it would just be better to install a good heating element for $10 in the unit thats already there and you dont have to do any custom work to your engine the heating elemets lionel puts in these unit are junk they never get hot enough
grizzleybearz282004 2 months ago
I love the "Major Award" Car.... that's great! If you didn't see the movie you wouldn't know anything about this train.
Giminey 2 months ago
@Giminey ya mst like would have seen this as another lionel christmas set sady to say or should i say masy to say this 0-8-0 is in need of repair the drive wheels locked up and it stoped running shortly after this video was made and im kinda pissed about it this was basicly a brand new set with not even an hour of uses but after the hoildays il take a look at it
grizzleybearz282004 2 months ago