Murder is Immoral!

In the interest of being brief, I left out the distinction between the moral definition of murder and the legal definition of murder. However, similar logic applies to the legal definition of murder: murder is always illegal.

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[Epydemic2020]

Objective morality is not like saying "murder is always wrong in every situation". It is just saying that a in a moral situation (with the exact same circumstances) has a right or wrong answer. Killing for fun is not the same as killing for self defense.

Take this example for instance,

"Torturing innocent babies for fun is wrong" would be a better example of an objective truth.

[CousinoMacul]

A. No two situations are ever exactly alike!

B. What if somebody has a good justification for said torture--but they happen to enjoy doing it?

C. How wrong is it? Is it worse than murder? Than adultery? Than treason? Than betraying your parents? Or is it objectively wrong, but HOW wrong it is is somehow subjective?

[Epydemic2020]

A. Perhaps not but they are close enough. The alternative would be a numerous individual examples of objective right or wrong.

B. You changed the circumstances.

C. Equal in the sense of disobeying God, Varying in relation to negative societal impact.

[CousinoMacul]

A. "Close enough" is a subjective evaluation.

B. Fair enough; but how can you ever know for sure what somebody's motives are?

C. I don't believe in your g0d, so this defense is meaningless to me.

[maman666]

very insightful!

[CousinoMacul]

Thanks!

[InsanityComplex1]

The reality is that there is no such a thing as "evil", unless you want to define evil as the action carried out as bad intention against another. Two possible offenses exist in this world: Physical and financial, there is also emotional but that's based on ignorance and irrationality. The problem is that all we have is the legal system and this only convicts people and punishes them, it never properly corrects them (no profit in that) so yes, defense/protection is justification.

[Hexdoll]

Killing is always immoral but life is not a series of choices only between right and wrong, but sometimes right and right or wrong and wrong.

If killing can be moral then all it needs is the proper justification and this to me seems very sociopathic and anything is permissible.

[gguilford72]

of course murder is always immoral; it's basically defined as killing when killing is wrong.

killing however is not always wrong.

[MarxIzalias]

Murder has a strict "Mens Rea" Guilty mind, to fit the "Actus Reus" Guilty actions.

[fryer22]

your gay

[AlmightyAtheismo]

One time a Theist asked me "What is your definition of morals"

I said "A moral is a subjective value that masquerades as an objective value"

For example "X makes me uncomfortable. Therefore X is immoral. Ergo X will bring down the fury of an invisible man in the sky on all of us."