Babylon 5 - My favorite scenes - Dead...dead....dead

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DO NOT WATCH OR READ THE DESCRIPTION if you wish not to be spoiled. This is from the last part of season 2.


From favorite scenes 6 and below, I have a hard time ranking them. I'll rank them later =p


This was soon after the Narns surrendered to the Centauri after the bombardment of Narn. Vir apologizes to G'Kar on behalf of his people. After that, you get some good old fashioned Andreas Katsulas emotion :) Wonderful actor....I love his scenes so much.


The usual legal stuff applies. I do not own Babylon 5. If you want me to remove it and you have that authority, tell me please.

Other than that, enjoy :)

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Film & Animation

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• Babylon5
• B5
• G'Kar
• VirCotto

[AlexeiVoronin]

Poor Vir - he is least responsible for what happened to the Narn, yet, of all Centauri, he feels guilty the most.

[choclytgremlins]

Stephen Furst (Vir) said in an interview that after they filmed this scene, he was so affected that he cried, whereas Andreas Katsulas just went off and smoked a cigarette like they'd been talking about the weather. What intense performances.

[Wyrmshadow]

@choclytgremlins Andreas ALWAYS smoked, like a chimney. That's what finally did him in. The world is less bright with him gone. Such a powerful actor.

[proadmin1]

@4u57inc0v3110 I don't disagree entirely, and if pressed, I would say , while there is a VAST amount of stuff that we don't know, and I think we could have vast amount of knowledge yet to acquire, there are likely some subjects we "baseline" humans will likely not be able to conceive of. An excellent example of this might be Lem's conception of Solaris, as an entity with which we presently have difficulty understanding or conceptualizing around and which might always be so.

[proadmin1]

@4u57inc0v3110 Well, I think the BSG writers in particular, while they are EXCELLENT episodic writers, seem to have had a much harder time, fleshing out story / character arcs. I don't doubt it's difficult, JMS, certainly knew how to do it, but in BOTH cases, writers and directors were hamstrung by budgets and interference, and frankly as more than one of the actors have noted some of the writers of BSG, "wrote themselves" into a corner here or there.

[4u57inc0v3110]

@proadmin1 When I say "sci-fi today," I'm not talking about Star Trek or B5. I'm talking BSG and Dollhouse. When you watch the series finale of BSG, you realize the series isn't even sci-fi at that point. It's fantasy, with the Rossum message "Some things mankind is not meant to know." Dollhouse is the same way. In fact, you're more likely to see the spirit of old fashioned Asimov-style sci-fi on early CSI or Bones than you are on a space opera these days.

[4u57inc0v3110]

Science fiction is always an examination of the human condition, but the case of Star Trek and B5, they didn't end up ripping science in the end. Problem is that there are two schools of thought in sci-fi: "Asimov" and "Rossum". The Asimov School believes that no knowledge is so arcane that it won't be tempered by human wisdom, whereas Rossum believes that the solution to arcane knowledge is ignorance. B5 was Asimov; BSG was Rossum.

[proadmin1]

@4u57inc0v3110 Actually, I tend to view science fiction rather differently. I tend to view a story and then strip it of all the technology, spaceships, and explosions and ask, do you still have a great story here? In the case of B5, BSG, and even some venerable episodes of the ST series, the answer is absolutely yes, you can do that. More over, I think one of the lessons B5 & BSG examine well, is that we should endeavor to treat each other / all of us, better than we do.

[proadmin1]

@websnarf Not just Narn and Centauri - but American and Pakistani , or Iraqi - or Viet Namese, or perhaps the Irish and English or the Germans and the Russians or Poles , or the Hutu's and Tutsi's - While certainly the Palestinians and Israeli's command a focus of attention, it's a problem for more than just their corner of the world - Tribalism sucks badly - no matter two small tribes, or large nation states.

[voltron821]

Babylon 5 was a good show. I liked it better than the Star Trek shows of the time.

[Ares99999]

The Narn had it coming.

They HAD been trying to pick a fight with the Centauri for years. Well, they got their fight, and lost it.

They had it coming.

[4u57inc0v3110]

@hcvang Well, you're right, but for the wrong reasons. It wasn't that BSG was grim and gritty, it's that it was anti-science right-wing garbage. In fact, that's most of today's so-called science-fiction. They've returned to the whole "ignorance is bliss" message of R.U.R. where science is the source of all of humanity's problems. The founding fathers (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.) would be rolling over in their graves over what passes for sci-fi these days.