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300 years?

oh jesus.

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[illyounotme]

Right on! You got it right. find your basic needs (not wants) and then make sure you have that.

As you say anything else is for comfort and improvement of your day to day living.

For all the nameless masses, know where to draw the line and say you don't need more crap!!

Possession is self slavery. More you own the more tired to it you become. More you need to protect it, maintain it, store it, etc... Which tends to make you need to own more stuff, that needs all of the same.

[TexanCyclist]

As the choir alludes, even if only change occurs within us then there is one who may well survive the crash whenever it occurs.

It's doing now whatever you can to separate from the grid. In '86 I was happy w/some coffee, salt, fishing tools, & a crossbow in a lean-to next to a year round spring. More comfy now, but they still are the core.

Figure out your minimum. Create it. Nowhere to go but up from there!

[bbbleaver]

i'm ready to talk about what we'd do with the time we've got... let's switch gears.

[TexanCyclist]

yup

[themajikat]

That's why I sort of disappeared from youtube. I haven't got much to say that hasn't been to said to the "choir". I've been changing minds (with some actual success, three friends are approaching approaching this with the same intensity I do, others, not yet) , I think that's the most crucial thing and the thing I do best.

[IhaveTubes]

good video

[Yoetah]

TC, that spot by the spring sounds good..it still available?

[illyounotme]

How long do we have? Two answers

-personal time left

As an individual you have a few years to get your shit together and be prepared. Of course sooner you start more prepared you will be. Knowledge, equipment, supplies, non-hybrid seeds, and a decent location all take time to gather and prepare for their use.

[illyounotme]

-society time left

Society is lost, their time is gone. Western Civ. is over but just hasn't finished its death throws. We should have reacted and changed much sooner. If we all suddenly decided to drop all petty arguments, pooled all resources and devoted our all to fixing the world, it could be saved. That though is completely unlikely.

[illyounotme]

With out the unity, we will fail. So society is dead & just doesn't know it. It is just too late for people to be educated & then start changing. The delay between cause and effect deceived people into thinking they had time to change later, when they didn't. So it is time to prepare personally to gather into groups of like mind & try to educate the ones out there that are already on the road, but don't worry about those resistant to change. Figure out your "escape plan", how will you survive?