British Humanists (Toynbee, Dawkins & Grayling) Run from William Lane Craig

Dawkins is not the only culprit in shying away from Craig's October 2011 UK Tour. He is but one of a Humanist Trinity who have all, in their own way, run away from William Lane Craig's willingness for open dialogue. Based on the press release from BeThinking.org. The example these BHA leaders are setting is disappointing, to say the least. Unofficial presentation - my commentary and opinions, but shared by many!

Material in this video is used either with permission or under Fair Use for purposes of documentary, journalism, evidenitialism, illustration and education. Non-profit. Designed to complement a major press release which has been generating responses from outlets including Fox News. It expresses concerns about academic expression and exchange which, as you will see, are shared by both the secular and non-secular. Happy to discuss with any third parties about crediting, links or ammendments etc.

Press Release: http://www.bethinking.org/what-is-apologetics/british-humanists-take-to-the-b...

Craig Tour Page: http://www.bethinking.org/craig

Craig Tour Booking: http://www.premier.org.uk/craig

Dawkins "Cowardice" article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8511931/Richard-Dawkins-accused-of-c...

Fox News on the Rout: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/19/christian-pastor-atheists-debates/

AC Grayling's article encouraging debate: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article515162.ece

Dawkins quotes Grayling as denying ever debating Craig: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/630517-why-dawkins-disappoints/comments?pa...

Youtube upload of the Craig v Grayling debate (with RD.net forum citations): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7ArUMuQyg

Youtube upload of the debate as broadcast on Unbelievable, with intro by host Justin Brierly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwIkaMytPoY

Grayling reacts to his mistake: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/630517-why-dawkins-disappoints/comments?pa...

Craig's website: http://www.reasonablefaith.org

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[The1OnJesusSide]

(off topic question) what is the music when the BRITISH HUMANISTS are being listed off?

[Birdieupon]

@The1OnJesusSide

"Roll Tide" from Hans Zimmer's soundtrack to the movie Crimson Tide.

[atheistrocker100]

Dawkins is utterly pathetic. Not only does he refuse to debate a leading Christian apologist, he also, much to the delight of his Dawkinsnet bum boys, retreats to his blog to write personal attacks on Craig, In a sense its bullying. Craig just seems like a completely decent, honest hardworking individual. Dawkins wrote a book for the public, telling them how stupid their religion is, surely he can back this up, when he's got a real opponent, and not just a strawman.

[StephenDeMille]

Toynbee surely only accept discuss cooking and being a housewife. LOL.

[atheistrocker100]

@Rockster969 Wow, yet another charming atheist. "WLC is certainly no philospher" lol you actually have no idea what your talking about, please don't comment me.

[Birdieupon]

@Rockster969

"his arguments have all been thoroughly refuted."

Refute them then, or you'll be blocked. I don't put up with people who make such claims without support.

[Birdieupon]

@Rockster969

You don't look like you're at all enjoying life, and you use language which doesn't even make you look 10 years old, thus even LESS capable of refuting Craig's arguments (which you don't even attempt, despite boasting about how easy it is).

So, here's a second chance: post your oh-so-easy refutations of Craig's arguments or you'll be blocked (I have grounds for that with your language already, so think carefully).

[Rockster969]

@atheistrocker100 because it's fucking boring talking to numpties that believe in talking snakes. There is a world out there to be enjoyed and talking to drooling knuckle draggers and listening to their pathetic arguments that 10 year olds can refute IS BORING.

You are boring

[Rockster969]

@atheistrocker100 oh do please fuck off.

Dawkins doesn't want to waste his time with a religious propagandist as WLC is certainly no philospher and his arguments have all been thoroughly refuted.

So if you and your non thinking ilk want to believe in skydaddy magic and talking snakes, the ark, and other bullshit, go ahead and suck WLC cock

[sgtsolo1]

I wasn't aware of what Dawkins has said about Craig, the respect i have for him has gone. Its now clear that behind his mask of authority and self-righteousness, he is just a angry, pompous, Deceitful, coward. What a pathetic "man".

[SUPERKNOWZ]

GOD is the Universe- show my error or worship me

Peace

KNOWZ

[JCrownwell]

@atheistrocker

"Not only does he refuse to debate a leading Christian apologist, he also, much to the delight of his Dawkinsnet bum boys, retreats to his blog to write personal attacks on Craig, In a sense its bullying"

This is very characteristic defensive/coping behaviour. One thing people should understand when they're offended by ad hominem remarks, is that this is a sign of weakness and that the perpretators are on the defensive.

People should never reciprocate ad hominems if possible.

[The1OnJesusSide]

Thank you. Ha, figures it was Hans Zimmer.