Tree Well Rescue, Inverted Entrapment - Teamwork in British Columbia's South Chilcotin Mountains
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Animals dont ski.
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@ghettoraid I can answer those questions for you;
1) Because they DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DELEGATE! A man's life was on the line-there's no time to be democratic.
2) They started digging as soon as they could. Some had past the skier and had to trek back to help.
3) Immediately go for the head!? Are you serious? His head was 5 to 6 ft.beneath the snow! Going for the head could have caused him more injury and he would've fell deeper into the well.
Tell us Mr. Expert, how would You have done it?
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While there are obviously things about this rescue that could be improved, I think you all did a good job under the circumstances. LEAD, if you're the one with the POV camera, you did two things extremely well. First, you kept your partner in sight and knew he had fallen in in the first place. Second, you may have LITERALLY saved his life by telling him not to move. That helped keep more snow from cascading down in the hole and covering his mouth. Thanks for posting this.
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step one: learn to take off your own skis
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@LeadHase upon arriving at the scene and seeing that his ski was preventing and further sinking, the shovel should have been deployed prior to removing the ski and digging immediately to the right of the skier should have commenced. the 2nd person on the scene would have removed the ski and held the buried victim in place. 3rd person on the scene would have deployed shovel and begun digging below the victim. 4th person clears snow from behind shoveler and the rest swap out shoveling.
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@LivinBackCountry How should it have been handled?
Glad you guys had a positive outcome. BTW, I've embedded this video in post publishing 1/23/2012 around 8:05 am at the Wisconsin Skier the topic is on practice and preparation. No amount of practice and prep can perfectly prepare you for the first real world experience, that is why employers value experience more than education.
wisskier 1 month ago
@wisskier Thanks for elevating the discussion, thats what I hoped. Yes, one thing we all learned was we had spent lots of time practicing & discussing avalanche rescue, beacon locating etc. We were also informed & aware of the dangers of tree wells but it seemed & was treated in training as a secondary threat. I don't think any of us could hav imagined Lee's predicament & it was shocking to be faced with it. I wanted this video to show everyone how instantly helpless they can make you.
LEADUSALLC 1 month ago
@LEADUSALLC First of all, don't let the critics of this video get to you, they apparently missed the point. I found it to be very informative. And i'm glad it was a success. I wasn't aware of the dangers of tree wells until about 3 years ago. This is why I stay on groomed runs. One question though, I read that a person has about a 10% cance of surviving a tree well accident. Is this true, and if so , how can one have the best chance of surviving something like this? What suggestions do you have?
skicrazy121 1 month ago
@skicrazy121 I have no statistics on survival rates. I believe a lot has to do with how you go in & if youre injured in the process. I have read that more people die in wells then in avi's most years. Suggestions - 1st, awareness and not getting into a rescue situation. Always stay in pairs and in sight of ur buddy. Proper safety gear & practice with it. Call/whistle (a must have piece of gear) for help asap. Stay calm (easier said then done when ur buddies life is on the line).
LEADUSALLC 1 month ago
@skicrazy121 That's from my non-professional - but now experienced self. I'd like to hear input to this question from a certified expert/professional guide. Lee is a powerful, physically robust guy but was instantly rendered all but helpless. Without the buddy system he would have been lost. One called to others and it began a group effort. I also think redundancy is key. Plan on failure. We had 3 shovels, for whatever reason we had one to work with. If we only had 1...
LEADUSALLC 1 month ago
LivinBackCountry the point IS to show our mistakes. We learned tremendously from it and thought others could too. Most people dont realize how tricky & dangerous a tree well is. It was handled poorly but we did SAVE HIS LIFE. I've provided a window for the community to witness the bad & good & grow from it. I don't have a window into your perfectly executed life. Anyone can point out "what should have been done" those r good things to think about - the point. I do know Lee thinks it was perfect.
LEADUSALLC 1 month ago