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Uploaded by on Jun 23, 2009

A message for the GOP: return to your core values of limited government and individual liberty. Embrace the Ron Paul faction within your party. This is a winning strategy. Compromising your values has put your party in disarray and created two electoral disasters. Let's make 2010 a success by supporting candidates who believe in liberty.

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  • Love the ending.

  • Freedom brings people together. As a fiftyish guy, I couldn't agree more with a twentyish guy. The GOP took a hard right turn with the neo-cons, and ran the party into a ditch. If they want help getting out of this mess, the neo-cons have got to get out of the driver's seat. Freedom, prosperity, and peace.

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  • 1984=the golden era eh??? funny shit

    Regan was as conservative as BUSH, you support Ron Paul and then suck up the The Just Say No Creators.......idiot.

  • @wemessy Thx. Well there is no opp cost as long (as you're talking w/ me) b/c I already support Constitutionalism--as opposed to what we have now. Out of curiosity, is that the opportunity cost by which you measure all of your actions? It is not a certainty that a return to strict Constitutionalism will lead back here. However, I think its likely. I think all Statism leads back here and worse--I just used the AofC to illustrate your arbitrariness. I'm open to discussion whenever you like.

  • @Decentralism Sure we can have that discussion now... at the opportunity cost of having the discussion that gets us back to 1789. And frankly if the government really did just obey the Constitution, I'd be pretty happy with that. You'll say that it inevitably deteriorates as a matter of empirical fact- but guess what? The A of C deteriorated into the Constitution you seem to detest, so same objection applies there. Seriously thanks for speaking up though, I'll let you have the last word...

  • @wemessy We can also have that discussion now, since having the discussion of what the end game is..won't prevent "us" to from getting back to 1789, in terms of a limited nation-state.

  • @Decentralism We can have that discussion once we get back to 1789. Until then it seems utterly mad to me to actually oppose the Federal government governing within the confines of the Constitution- which is to actually oppose limiting the power of the Federal government.

  • @wemessy Would u prefer the Articles of Confederation? It is a further step toward liberty. Your choice to make a pit stop at the Constitution is arbitrary--probably based your reverence for the founders, which probably derives from the reverence shown for the founders in public school or some State-authorized text book somewhere. Evaluate the founders on their actions. you will see they were not libertarians consistently nor was the Const. a limiting document--this is empirically true.

  • @Decentralism Sorry if I was unclear. My reply was intended to respond to your entire comment. You criticized the Constitution as creating incentives for the state to grow its power, but I disagree. As I said in my comment- there has likely never been a more well-constituted government. It's not the Constitution's fault that people ignore or willfully misinterpret it. Those hell-bent on power and control are pretty relentless. If we get back to it, we'll have made major progress toward liberty.

  • @wemessy I think its cool that you only read the first sentence of my comment or that you chose to ignore all but the first sentence.

  • @Decentralism Yeah our Constitution is probably the most well-crafted government in history. I'd like to get back to doing what it says for sure. Wouldn't you?

  • Do you really buy Constitutionalism? People already tried the Constitutionalism and look where this nation is. The problem is incentives. the State's existence will continue to provide incentives for those in power to rape the Constitution. the wealth/prosperity created by a limited State will continue to provide incentives to not be a watchmen of the State. And when the State has no watchmen we will be back here again, in 2010, figuratively.

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