Almost everyone who has gone to college has encountered a teacher who has been compelled to share the story of the blind men and the elephant. The mystery of God and the diversity of religious opinion solved! The Deity is beyond knowing and all religions are just paths up the same mountain. And so we can go find our own truth, follow our own bliss...and likely have as much sex with as many people of whatever gender or orientation we want -- just make sure that the relationships are non-exploitive. (Hey, teach! Who made you judge over what proper relationships look like? In my religion, rape and exploitation is good. Darwin is my blind guide and he's not as blind as you. The strong do and should survive -- and I intend to spread my "selfish genes" just as far and wide as I can.)
Anyway, we broke apart this touchy-feely but ultimately dead-end, philosophically flawed analogy for your viewing pleasure. Thank us by asking the God who made and sees the whole elephant to reveal Himself to you (hint, the only Man who ever came back from the dead as a glorified new Human revealed Him) and then follow Him with all your heart. mind, soul and strength.
Presuppositional apologetics in action. Love it!
repeater1975 3 months ago
@WMsReligion Of course I've read the claims that Jesus was a descendant from his mother's side. But when it comes to a king's lineage, its the father who counts.
And Jesus can't be a descendant through his father because, legal or not, Josheph wasn't really his dad. I'm sure you know the Jews value their blood lines. And they say that the soul resides in the blood.
As for the prophecies, I'm still not convinced that Jesus wasn't playing into those prophecies, as part of his act.
Synth3t1cs 6 months ago
@Synth3t1cs Jesus is 'a descendant' of King David, from BOTH his parent's lineages. If you read the genealogies, they list different individuals, but both reaching back to King David and beyond. .........
However, Joseph is not the biological father but the legal father. Remember, Jesus was born miraculously through Mary who was a virgin at the time.
Jesus is the messiah who fulfilled more than 300 prophecies found in the Old Testament, from His birth right up to His death & resurrection.
WMsReligion 6 months ago
@heyitsmiLi Where do I get these ideas? Its called the Old Testament, aka The Torah. And its the book that predicts the coming of the messiah, and if you believe the Christians, it also proves Jesus is the messiah. (Even though if you read the predictions he doesn't fit all the criteria.)
They say Jesus is a descendant of King David, and yet Christians say he's the son of God. Well you can't be both. His lineage comes through his father Joseph. Again, contradictions no one wants to address.
Synth3t1cs 6 months ago
@Synth3t1cs Where did you get the idea that Christ came to rid the world of all those things? He never said he would (like I said, wrong). Get your facts right. He said he'd save the world (us) by granting us forgiveness. But he never guaranteed it would be automatic. Salvation isn't automatically granted; that would defeat the purpose itself. As human beings are in nature sinful, why would he forgive us if we weren't truly sorry in the first place?
heyitsmiLi 6 months ago
@heyitsmiLi Wrong is a matter of opinion. As for my concerns about the duality of God, that's something all people have to confront. Just like Christians must confront the idea that even though the messiah was suppossed to bring an end to original sin, pain and suffering, all of those things are still around. Women still suffer pain in childbirth. Men still toil to bring food from the land.
Synth3t1cs 6 months ago
@Synth3t1cs Really? I have a weak mind? I was throwing your words back at you seeing as they're wrong.
And you really have no idea about spirituality, do you? God isn't the devil, the 2 are separate, opposing forces. The occultists don't claim the devil is God, they just want to rebel against good so they worship the devil. And you're right, demons are still around. They're commanded by the devil. Where did you get the idea that God got rid of all demons? If he did, you wouldn't need saving.
heyitsmiLi 6 months ago
@heyitsmiLi First, get your own material. Copy / pasting my own words just proves you have no argument. That's the first sign of a weak mind.
Second, assuming your place in heaven is a sin.
Third, Jesus may have died for our sins, but guess what? The devil, demons and other supernatural, unseen entities are still around. They haven't gone anywhere. It almost makes you feel the occultists are right when they say God is both God and the devil.
Synth3t1cs 6 months ago
@Synth3t1cs how close-minded can you be? You've conveniently 'forgotten' about the part where Jesus paid for our sins so we have a chance to be forgiven. Even if you stray from the path of the righteous even for a moment you *won't* find yourself in hell for eternity. So much love, so much love.
heyitsmiLi 6 months ago
Derp. These classes.. Huehuehuehue
JakariHanma 8 months ago