Who Was Shakespeare? The Debate. 10 Reasons Why Shakespeare Could Not Have Written His Works
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@TheMrsSDC I happen to be working on my Masters in English Literature. You know nothing about me and your comments against everything that I have said were created out of you misunderstanding my words. Yes, I am passionate. However, I am willing to see reason. I know that degrading another person's intelligence will never benefit anyone. I was attempting to clarify a discussion that I had with someone else. If you want to join a conversation, you need to understand the it first.
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"The Writer of the Mellenium"
Fantastic use of spell check.
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@TheMrsSDC The existing meaning of 'pleasance' is completely different from my usage. I know I'm no Shakespeare, but you don't have to be sorry (or snarky) about it. Try having some pleasance.
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@strength1622 Certainly I have "no clue" about you and your distinguished record of internet commentary, but I do know a fair amount about both Austen and Shakespeare. In the academic sense, as in university research and degree. Enough that I should have known to avoid engaging online crackpots on the subject. You are drastically overreacting. I'm sure you are a fierce adorer of these authors, but you do no good on the rational side of the debate with your interpersonal style.
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@TheMrsSDC What I meant by bring Austen up in the original comment was to say that some people like to keep their private matters private. Shakespeare's handwriting may have been something private to him just as Austen's personal letters were kept private at her requests.
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@TheMrsSDC I never claimed that she didn't want to be published. Like I said, you should read my prior comments before making absurd claims. You can't make an argument for or against something that you have no clue about. Before attacking claims, you should spend some time researching the details. Austen was phenomenal and was a celebrated Author during her lifetime. I never denied her that. I merely claimed that there are plenty of misplaced documents both purposeful and accidental.
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@strength1622 Austen's sister destroyed some of her letters after her death, which was normal at the time. Many survived. I'm not sure what you're defensive about, but I'm happy for you that you appreciate Austen. Perhaps you have read some of her many biographies? No, I do not follow your comments. My point was that Austen's work wasn't written to be kept private-- she made extensive efforts to publish her work during her lifetime and was well-received. Austen did die famous.
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@TheMrsSDC Yes, Jane Austen ordered her sister to burn all of her personal letters. If you read some of my previous comments, I am fiercely defensive of both Austen and Shakespeare. I openly claim my adoration for her works and claim that she was on the same level as Shakespeare. For without writers like her, we wouldn't have had Dickens or Bronte. This comment was in no way meant to degrade Miss Austen. The only way that could be viewed in such a light would be to take it out of context.
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what about mcbeth? the dudes never been to scotland before? are you gonna hold that against him? and besides fear not shakespeare! my handwriting sucks too. it doesn't take a genius to have good handwriting just a good imagination :)
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@PelicanCode Johnson did not produce the first folio. And we dont know exactly which manuscripts were used, foul papers or a fair copy of the foul papers. That these manuscripts existed there can be no doubt. We dont know exactly when they were lost.
Interesting point....Shakespeare did have an unusual obsession with burial and a fear of exhumation...........maybe it was put in plce by all the "Ghost" writers....... :)
PelicanCode 3 months ago
Reason 10 - The Italian Connection. Who's to say that Shakespeare never met or encountered Italians? And if he never encountered them personally, he was amidst the heavily stressed political atmosphere in London. I'm sure that national affairs and issues were often an important and highly discussed topic. Italy was especially a topic of importance because they were the birth of the Renaissance which greatly affected writers/inventors.
strength1622 4 months ago
@strength1622 But to have intricate knowledge of the minutiae of some of the Italian cities - especially Venice.....although there are some inconsistencies around other Italian cities, which re-enforces the possibility there may have been multiple writers....
PelicanCode 4 months ago
Reason 9 - A person's handwriting does not reflect their intelligence. If that were the case, many people in my generation would be S.O.L. Handwriting nowadays is atrocious. Just ask any English professor. So unless you want to condemn the majority of today's generations to stupidity, you cannot truly use this reason against Shakespeare.
strength1622 4 months ago
@strength1622 if all we have after 52 years of creative genius is 6 scrawled signatures - it begs serious questions especially if all 6 are spelt differently, 3 of which were in the same legal document,
PelicanCode 4 months ago
Reason 8 - Yes it is true that none of his works were officially published during his lifetime. But there were 18 unauthorized versions of his plays published throughout his lifetime. Regardless of publication, they were presented on stage with him being confirmed as the Author. Likewise, plays were required to be registered regardless. Especially before publication. All of his plays are registered and they are registered to him. The registration was an act of censorship by the gov't.
strength1622 4 months ago
@strength1622 agreed totally - the quartos were just inaccurate reflections by actors and the like of what the plays were about. Interestingly though - and I have just thought about this if Ben Johnson produced the first folio he must have had original manuscripts - strange they didn't actually get retained though.......or kept as a back up for the printing process in 1623
PelicanCode 4 months ago