Tai Chi Wrestling

YMAA Tai Chi Martial Applications

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Sports

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• Tai
• Chi
• Chuan
• Taijiquan
• Taiji

[mazdaplz]

truth is you are no martial arts expert or you wouldn't be a ghost account. from what i could gather you are more like a starvin marvin from the virgin islands. stop your delusions of grandeur

[Ryooken]

Be careful whom you challenge. The last time this happened it was one of my tai chi brothers that were challenged and the person found themselves upside down thinking the floor was the ceiling.

[jhimm]

ITT: Silly people who think that taiji is about fighting and combat. Taiji is the art of NOT fighting in the midst of combat. There is no need to distract, to use force, to use speed, to focus on techniques/forms or to "shock" or "lock" anyone. All that is required is that you receive the energy coming to you safely, and then return it to the person who has lent it to you with a bit of interest. If you genuinely understand taiji principles, none of what you all are discussing is at all relevant.

[Jucudeno]

It is simple...you need what you need. The physics and principles are sound, if your opponent gives you the opening while attacking, it is done. To not know it is to miss the opportunity, an opportunity your opponent may know. Notice half of these are lower body sweeps as in judo. Having his arm is secondary and often during an attack is natural from the blocking position. Your opponent may strike twice and attempt to grab, surely if he's open to a strike, strike him. Situational

[kempobrad]

but that does you no good if you cant catch his arm. that is my point. it's alot easier said than done. people spend way too much time on the techniques and not enough time on getting into position for said technique. the wrist lock is easy IF you can catch his arm first. its about distraction and entry for me regardless of the attack. even against a lapel grab for example hit em first. one sensei i know says "shock em to lock em"because he's not just gonna stand there and let you do your stuff.

[Ryooken]

That's part of it but it's not all about distraction. It's a combination depending on the skill of the opponent.

[Ryooken]

You are right. It's not like the old days. Combat has gotten a little more sophisticated. However, it still doesn't take much to take those guys out either. the circles must be shorter and remember something about chin'na when done at relative slow speeds, they are used for control, in real situations they are used for breaking.

[kempobrad]

IMO and experience they depend more on a distraction. rather than just trying to catch or meet the arm..hit em. distract them for a second or two and it's much much easier to get your joint locks to work.

[kempobrad]

in practice or for real? lol the problem with most of the chin na/jujutsu that i've seen is that nobody really attacks the way they do in class. it's usually short quick thrusts at multiple angles for example when it's a knife. not a big lunging, telegraphing step and kiai followed by an extremely overcommited attack. its easy to catch those.

[Ryooken]

It's a little deeper than just that. It's not just about concentrating but learning how to meet the spear on the shaft without stopping it's movement then sliding you hand where you want to apply the technique. You are looking at the wrist circle chin'na to the left or right but not looking at the chin'na as it's applied forward and backward. Chin'na work in 360 all over the body.

[Ryooken]

for example I might not attack the wrist of an opponent with a knife when the knife is down but I might use a chin'na to circle behind the fist of a knife facing up. Alot of these techniques depend on coordinationation. and not just speed.

[Ryooken]

Yes, I have used chin'na on people with knives, sticks, not swords though, and with fists. It really depends on how you apply the technique, any part of the body can be locked. You can chin'na the elbow joint as effectively as the wrist joint with greater control over the body. Also you have to look at chin'na more than just one dimentionally.