Evolution v. Creationism: the Politics, the Science, the Debate (2 of 3)

A panel discussion exploring the politics and science surrounding the evolution v. creationism debate, presented by the American Humanist Association.

The panel features renowned experts leading the discussion:

Eugenie Scott, Ph.D., executive director of the National Center for Science Education and author of Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction and co-editor of Not in Our Classrooms: Why Intelligent Design is Wrong for Our Schools,

Barbara Forrest, Ph.D., professor of philosophy at Southeastern Louisiana University, expert witness for the plaintiff in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, and co-author of Creationism's Trojan Horse: The Wedge of Intelligent Design,




and

Kenneth Miller, Ph.D., professor of biology at Brown University, lead expert witness for the plaintiff in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, and author of Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution and Only a Theory: Evolution and the Battle for America's Soul.

Fred Edwords, communications director of the United Coalition of Reason and former editor of the Creation/Evolution journal, moderates.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• evolution
• creationism
• science
• education
• Darwin
• humanist

[MrHoolits]

@Mogley52, Which Creationist Scientists are you talking about. There are very few Creationist Scientist.

Evolution = 99.85% in the US & 99.9% of Scientists elsewhere working in relevant fields of earth & life sciences & more than 2 of 3 Christians.

Real Creationist Scientists like YEC leader Kurt WIse and Dr. Henry M. Morris “father of creation science” and founder of the Institute of Creation Research admit Evolution and natural selection but reject it due to Scripture is assumed to be true."

[Mogley52]

GOD, HEAVEN, AND SEX: Internet article examines the Biblical possibility of sex in heaven. Human sexuality isn't just for reproduction. There are reasons the Bible requires marriage for sex on earth, but those reasons won't exist in heaven. Scripture teaches, in heaven, we'll be like the angels only in one sense - no marriage, but we won't be like angels in every other way (i.e. Bible says we'll enjoy food and drink). Psalm 16:11 says there will be great spiritual joy and pleasures in heaven.

[Mogley52]

SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

[Mogley52]

NATURAL LAWS CAN EXPLAIN how an airplane works or how a cell works, but undirected natural laws cannot explain the origin of either. What about natural selection? Natural selection doesn't produce anything. It only "selects" from what is produced and it only operates once there is life, not before. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, then that species survives (is "selected"). That's all it is! Don't worship it!

[Mogley52]

DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read my popular Internet articles: ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM, ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE!

[Mogley52]

BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from traits having survival value. It doesn't produce those traits. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM

[Mogley52]

ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

[Mogley52]

ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article that examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of both transitional forms and lack of sequence of the fossil layers. Discusses mixed species in fossils (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum conveniently ignored by evolutionists).

[Mogley52]

IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

[Mogley52]

APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.