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Mr. Deity's plans for a region of reprimand are discovered by John (later known as "The Baptist").
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  • You can't be all-powerful without being all-knowing.

  • @kenotube How do you know? Are you all-knowing?

  • @misterdeity Example: There's a planet Sprog 1 billion light years from Earth that, let's say, God doesn't know about. There is a resident on this planet, Zork who is about to be killed by a Splink. God is powerless to save Zork's life because he doesn't know he exists. QED.

  • @kenotube That's just more of not being all knowing. He could still be all-powerful in that circumstance -- he could have saved Zork's life had he known. He just didn't know. But that again is a failure of knowledge, not power. BTW, isn't it fun pretending we could know anything about any of this?

  • @misterdeity Well, that was my point. He could have saved Zork's life, had he known. But since he wasn't all knowing, he didn't have the power to save his life; hence, he is not all-powerful, if he is not all-knowing. And yes, it is fun pretending. Although, I think it would be a terrible burden to be all-knowing or all-powerful.

  • @kenotube Being all-powerful, he could travel back in time and save Zork once he finds out. But the larger point is that speaking of a Being who is "all-powerful" or "all-knowing" means absolutely nothing in the context of a personal being. These are merely concepts attached to the idea of God to make Him more palatable -- to assuage our fears, and lift our hopes. God needs to be all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good to do that. But as a friend says, "pick any two."

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  • @JMMCL16 The old testament shows how much mercy you can expect as well, which is not much.

    Can you say flood?

  • "Eternity" is by far the biggest of the dumb ideas in the bible. Too lazy to quantify something? Slap a lil infinity on it to fix it up.

    In the face of eternity every good or bad action becomes inconsequential. Hmmm, maybe the bible is saying our lives are pointless. That would explain the sky-daddy's gleeful exuberance towards slaughter and indifference to suffering.

    Thanks for the vids, btw.

  • @misterdeity of course an all powerful being could deliver an edict to not allow killing. Zork would be saved. A circumstance that allows all powerful to exist, without all knowing existing. To me that seems to be a simpler rebuttal. Oh but then again there is the pesky free will thing.

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    I think the point kenotube tries to make is that all-powerfulness logically necessitates all-knowingness. After all to be able to do something, you need to know how to do it. The problem with this thought is that logic doesn't need to apply to all-powerful imaginary beings, as the literature overwhelmingly shows.

  • @misterdeity Yes, I see your point. I guess that's why you play God and I just watch.

  • The Deity that is going rouge. fantastic!

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