Lloyd rants about the melting ice cap fallacy

In which I ramble for a bit on the effect on water levels of melting ice, and the implications of this for global sea levels, what with the Arctic warming up and all that. I mention Vikings, so on previous form I dare say that most of the comments will be about what sorts of axes they used, or something.


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• ice
• cap
• arctic
• melt
• calving
• glacier
• sea
• level
• rise
• climate
• change
• global
• warming
• greenland
• viking
• farm

[chamolihn]

You're not only stupid, you're also annoying.

[lindybeige]

@chamolihn Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[Ungulates]

Antarctica. That LARGEST continent GILDED in ice. Mention that one too. Give us the specifics of your 'warm period' and tell me if it applied to the massive ice desert in the South, or just the NORTH ATLANTIC.

Next, polar bears losing habitat is a BIG problem for humans. If they can't make it in on their turf, they will come to ours. They like to eat humans enough already.

Whatever your opinions on the subject are, extra greenhouse gasses aren't helping. We can live without finite poison fuel.

[lindybeige]

@Ungulates The southern hemisphere has been cooling for a while now. We can shoot polar bears. There are already plenty of brown and black bears in the areas where polar bears would go, and these only eat a couple of people a year. Even if the medieval warming had been solely in the north, what would that prove? That climate is even weirder and more unpredictable than we thought?

[lindybeige]

@Theneongray2 I know, and if you care about truth and science, you are considered callous and evil. It can be a cruel world.

[Squeejee09]

Ironically enough, we're SUPPOSED to be in an Ice Age right now, and that's what has the real scientists at the forefront of Global Warming research worried.

Why Ironic? Because if we accept that GW is happening, than it may well have saved us all from freezing to death during the industrial revolution.

Does that make GW good? Not at all, but whether you believe in it or not there are plenty of logical reasons to switch to renewable energies and electric vehicles. Like gas prices, goddamn.

[Hrein100]

@lindybeige Actually Grizzly bears in northern america are being hunted to extinction just like before in Europe. Im not sure about black bears though

[anotherelvis]

Your example with the ice cube is correct, but I think that the claim is that the rising sea levels are caused by the melting on land based ice.

Apparently there is also a contribution from thermal expansion: as ocean water warms, it expands. (Quoting wikipedia)

[hcig]

I want that viking jeep pic.

[lindybeige]

@Kikarok A LOT higher, yes.

[Kikarok]

@Aroddo

co2 was higher millions of years ago. fail.

[Aroddo]

You mentioned the greenland ice already, so I can skip that.

Scientists have proven (or suspect or claim, depending on personal opinion) that the greenhouse effect heats up the earth and that co2 is contributing to it.

The current co2 levels are already higher than anything ever recorded in history (yes, they know how high it was thousands of years ago) and it's rising.

Assuming that temperature will indeed rise: What happens to water if it gets warmer?

It expands, yes.

Indonesia underwater.