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The "God-intoxicated ape." I am always mentally engaged by this commentary. It's great to see someone who really knows what they're talking about, even though I do not consider myself religious at present.
@CoryTheRaven More ping-pong: You took it upon you to criticize and rectify my understanding and use of words such as "atheism", "supernatural", "metaphysics" and "belief". I'm trying to get things straight which you hold against me.
@CoryTheRaven "It just doesn't taste good to me." So it seems. But nothing is that simple. You must correlate time, memory, present, past & so much more to make up your mind & declare your position. An assertion/belief/opinion(take your pick) is an "end" that must be based on something. When is that "something" a belief system & when is it not? That was my question. And who makes that decision? He/she have the difficult task to decide (from case to case?) when philosophy starts.
@DrHowbeit No it couldn't. You're comparing two entirely different things. I don't "believe" I dislike a foodstuff. It just doesn't taste good to me. That is quite different from a philosophical system that ends - not begins, ends - with the belief that God does not exist.
For someone who is not "energized" by definitions of things, you certainly enjoy playing word games.
@CoryTheRaven You have shown that a person's understanding of the world is a belief system. When that person declares a disbelief that belief system is tagged a philosophy/religion named after the disbelief.
@CoryTheRaven I expected you to pick up on that. That statement could easily be rephrased to "I believe I don't like bananas" and the point would still stand. Correcting language remains your main objective. Note that we haven't even been talking about whether or not god exists here.
@CoryTheRaven I was under the impression you addressed me to change my understanding of what atheism implies. I've decided to hear you out to see if you have a point.
@CoryTheRaven I get the impression you have already decided that God DOES exist as a basis for your thinking, with all the arguments that revolve around that belief. You assume that persons with no information on the subject, when being asked the question "Do you think there's a being who exists outside space and time", will say "Yes" in 50% of the cases.
@CoryTheRaven The understanding of the universe as consistent might seem to generic to make up for a belief system (along with a number of other building blocks). But that's because you, or someone else, say so. Who draws the line and where?
The "God-intoxicated ape." I am always mentally engaged by this commentary. It's great to see someone who really knows what they're talking about, even though I do not consider myself religious at present.
NashvilleKildCountry 1 week ago
@CoryTheRaven More ping-pong: You took it upon you to criticize and rectify my understanding and use of words such as "atheism", "supernatural", "metaphysics" and "belief". I'm trying to get things straight which you hold against me.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven "It just doesn't taste good to me." So it seems. But nothing is that simple. You must correlate time, memory, present, past & so much more to make up your mind & declare your position. An assertion/belief/opinion(take your pick) is an "end" that must be based on something. When is that "something" a belief system & when is it not? That was my question. And who makes that decision? He/she have the difficult task to decide (from case to case?) when philosophy starts.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@DrHowbeit No it couldn't. You're comparing two entirely different things. I don't "believe" I dislike a foodstuff. It just doesn't taste good to me. That is quite different from a philosophical system that ends - not begins, ends - with the belief that God does not exist.
For someone who is not "energized" by definitions of things, you certainly enjoy playing word games.
CoryTheRaven 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven You have shown that a person's understanding of the world is a belief system. When that person declares a disbelief that belief system is tagged a philosophy/religion named after the disbelief.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven I expected you to pick up on that. That statement could easily be rephrased to "I believe I don't like bananas" and the point would still stand. Correcting language remains your main objective. Note that we haven't even been talking about whether or not god exists here.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@DrHowbeit Not liking bananas is a "belief" now?
CoryTheRaven 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven I was under the impression you addressed me to change my understanding of what atheism implies. I've decided to hear you out to see if you have a point.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven I get the impression you have already decided that God DOES exist as a basis for your thinking, with all the arguments that revolve around that belief. You assume that persons with no information on the subject, when being asked the question "Do you think there's a being who exists outside space and time", will say "Yes" in 50% of the cases.
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago
@CoryTheRaven The understanding of the universe as consistent might seem to generic to make up for a belief system (along with a number of other building blocks). But that's because you, or someone else, say so. Who draws the line and where?
DrHowbeit 2 weeks ago