TIDF/Everything in Islam is about Trinity

1-The clown investigateislam"christians_Goat" claims Islam is the religion of trinity and everything in the holy Quran is three
2-He quotes Mat 28:19 to prove that trinity exists in the bible.

With regard to the word trinity (tathleeth) it is not mentioned in either the Quraan or the Sunnah, rather the word tathleeth (in the sense of doing something three times) is mentioned by the scholars when they discuss cleaning onself with pebbles after relieving oneself, or when discussing wudoo, ghusl, washing the dead, saying tasbeeh when bowing and prostrating, asking permission to enter a house, etc.

What is meant in all of these cases is doing something three times, and it has nothing to do with the trinity of the Christians, which Allaah mentions describing their words and commanding them to believe that He is One (Tawheed) and to believe that Eesa (Jesus) is a Messenger and not a god.

Surely, disbelievers are those who said: Allaah is the third of the three (in a Trinity). But there is no Ilaah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilaah (God —Allaah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them

[al-Maa'idah 5:73]

I have replied in general on his video. with regards to Names of God(Allah). see this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KYtyRMHU4



sources:

Is the trinity that the Christians believe in mentioned in Islam?

http://islamqa.com/en/ref/12713


http://www.ccel.org/bible/phillips/CN201BOOKIntros.htm#matthew


Matthew 28:19 is not original and is an interpolation according to Biblical scholars

http://unveiling-christianity.com/2008/12/30/matthew-2819/

Refutation in Arabic:

http://www.aljame3.net/ib/index.php?showtopic=4674

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[xiaahmad]

Trinity is non Biblical

Nor Preached by Prophets

Neither believed by there followers

and most imply it contradicts with ONE GOD Belief

[xiaahmad]

Again if I say do something in name of three people does that mean there is trinity among them? :D

[MartyJSwizzle]

@pamuk7 - 1 bucket of water + 1 bkt of water +1 bkt of water = water in 3 buckets.

1 God the Father + 1 God the Son + 1 God the Holy Spirit = God in 3 personages.

It’s not 3 different God’s no more than the water is 3 different kinds of water. It’s all the same kind of water (H2O) in 3 different buckets just as the same God in 3 different personages. It’s not a difficult concept, you just need to know what the bible teaches about it and understand the biblical perspective.

[pamuk7]

@GreaterSolomon im sorry:

1 bucket of water + 1 bucket of water +1 bucket of water= 3 buckets of water(Not 1 bucket go learn Maths..lol

[xiaahmad]

I think you didnt read it carefully

I didnt said that they change

I said one molecule is in one state at one time not in three distinct state at same time :)

I really hope you dont teaching some one mathematics when you dont know to count

[GreaterSolomon]

xiaahmad- YOUR SCIENCE IS ALL WRONG!!! You don't understand physics. Go and get yourself a Physics degree before you start giving false lectures on science and give discredit to any arguement you may ever present!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First understand, that in PHYSICS both the molecules or molecule themselves DON'T CHANGE (only density). What appears to you as ICE, WATER, OR GAS is the same moecule(s), arranged with molecules in a DIFFERENTR ARRANGEMENT( or structure).

[xiaahmad]

Molecules not molecule one molecule is in one state at one time and not in three fully different states at same time.

I think you dont know how to count. as I given to example of apples that u cant say three apples are one apple :)

[GreaterSolomon]

Part 2

Jesus came into the world as the 'son of man' meaning as a human, but at the same time divine because he is the Word of God. This made him completely righteous. He had no ordinary conception because it was not the corruptible life of man he was was born from but God's own life, DIVINE. This is why he is the Son of the Father. The Father is God. Son also is God. His death meant he was separated from his father, separated from his divinty. But the father always exists and he raised Jesus.

[GreaterSolomon]

Firstly, let me clearly state that the arguement of 'water' was not meant to describe the DIVINE NATURE of God, but was merely a natural illustration given to show how it is POSSIBLE that 3 CAN EXIST IN 1, and yet have different functions and manifestations simultaneously. Which point I went out to prove and have PROVED.

[IslamResponses]

In a similar manner, if God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are all merely three "personalities" or three "states" for one being, namely God Almighty, then it is not possible for one "personality" of God to DIE while the other two remained a safe distance away unharmed by death

(Mark 15:37, John 19:33, Romans 5:6,...etc.).

[IslamResponses]

GreaterSolomon;

If I have a cup of water which can become steam, liquid, or ice, then it is not possible for me to drink the "liquid" while the "ice" and "steam" remain inside the glass. It is not possible for the "liquid" to beseech the ice to save it from being drunk while the ice stayed a safe distance away and was not itself drunk. cont1

[GreaterSolomon]

He is the triune God.

Read above.. I said it's NOT 1+1+1=3

BUT

1x1x1=1 because in the equation, all though 3 '1' s are one and the SAME indivisible '1'.

Water (please research thanks), all three exist SCIENTIFICALLY AT SAME TIME under a microscope- ice, water gas. They are the same molecules, but only appear to your eye as ice, water or gas because of MOLECULAR ARRANGEMENT. But the hydrogen and oxygen molecules individually (as a unit) NEVER CHANGE regardless of the 3 states they appear.

[xiaahmad]

I hope yout count like that in school

tell me if there are three apples will you gona count them as 1x1x1=1 apple

and in trinity all three exist at same time unlike the case with water molecule :)

[GreaterSolomon]

In whichever of the 3 states 'H2O' appears, it SCIENTIFCALLY remains the SAME SUBSTANCE regardless of space occupied or time.

Biblical understanding of GOD is not 1+1+1 = 3 as pagans think. In mathematical terms one COULD compare Trinity with 1 x 1 x 1 = 1.

In regards to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, they are not independent or divinely separate; but exist in a complete unity, where each one abides in the other. In this equation, they appear as an indivisible unit.

[xiaahmad]

Thing is one molecule dont exist in two fully different states at same time.

so that example dont explained trinity

[GreaterSolomon]

What is the TRINITY?

Is it SO impossible to have '3 IN 1'? Thinking of GOD we consider the DIVINE nature. God's attributes are seen in the world created.

Let's take water which scientifically is 'H2O' by nature but EXISTS in two other DISTINCT forms. I drink WATER, walk on ICE, breathe in GAS. Operate differently yet they are one and the same in nature.

When drinking water, do you THINK there are '3' in the cup or 1? Water. The Father, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit are ONE as God is One.

[TheUploaderYes]

Stupid Pagans..

Here's some non-Trinity Christians...

hewhocauses, Truthinthewind,bigivee, studentofJesus, manmay14..

I hope they will once agree on who is their God, those dumbies..

[xiaahmad]

But In bible books of ACTS they baptize in name of Jesus only :D

[7654x]

the guy talking at the beginning is a shaytaan. i advise any & everyone not to bother with him. & i advise myself first then the Muslims to establish the Pillars, Conditions & Rules of the Shahadah!

many of the christians now are resembling the jews, hard headed! Allah gave us a brain so we can conprehend, but many just want to follow their desires...