Shostakovich's 8th Symphony by Mravinsky, mov. 3
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Shostakovich's 8th Symphony by Mravinsky, mov. 3
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@whythewar1 Haha, you put that just right!
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It's a kind of shriek. Horror captured in music.
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@kurtmuroki Actually I just checked my recording again. There is no ritard as such
at the end of the bar, but there is a slight tenuto across the double bar from m. 8 to m. 9
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@howardandmaggie Bar 9 is the transition bar in the phrase. Any conductor that inserts a ritard at the end of the 8th bar really has not spent enough time understanding the connection between the 1st 8 bars and 10 - 14. 8 bars building up to a hemiola, then 4 bars releasing. The ritard kills the phrase. The stacatto note at the beginning of the 9th bar is a key indicator as to how to play the hemiola. Music reflects life and Brahms understood that as shown in his music.
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@howardandmaggie maybe I was not clear. I never said that Brahms was autobiographical in his composing style. What I am saying is that he was greatly AFFECTED and influenced by Beethoven's compositional style and dominance in symphonic writing. How much more stress can a man go through when writing a symphony than following Beethoven??? I trust Brahms a whole lot more than Karajan. The proof is in the score. Why put a ritard at the end of the hemiola in bar 8 of the 1st mvmt?
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What a crock! Not only did Karajan understand both Brahms and Beethoven better than almost anyone else I can think of, but the notion that Brahms's music is in some way autobiographical ("understanding what Brahms was going through") is so disingenuous as to be quite hilarious. Did you ever attend a concert where HvK was conducting Brahms and/or Beethoven? I did, and I can assure you that the hemiolas and cross rhythms were utterly organic.
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the best trumpet solo!!!
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Stalin personified in music....simply terrifying!!
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Beethoven makes you cry, mozart makes you happy, and shostakovich makes you shit your pants, that's just the way the world works I think.
whythewar1 1 year ago 47
1:31 It's Stephen Fry!
0GL 1 year ago 13