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Uploaded by on Feb 20, 2009

Contact details for youtubes advertise channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/advertise

Suzie Reider (Head of Sales and Marketing Youtube)
http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/iMedia_PC_Overview.aspx?ID=1098
You might also want to try to google the name for other possible contacts

Well I tried in good faith about half a dozen times to contact youtube, and they showed little to no interest.
If you make diplomatic change impossible, you make change by mass action inevitable.

Out grievances stem from the lack of protection we get against people intent on disrupting or maliciously damaging the channels we have created.

Our channels typically advocate free thinking and are critical of those who do not (mostly dogmatic belief systems of one sort or another, e.g. creationism). This typically makes them targets for a relatively small core of disruptive and fanatical people.

Attacks involve votebots such as those that have attacked the following channel.
NonStampCollector
ZOMGitsCriss
Emiteal
PiroNiro
DJarm67
DMCAabuse
FranzDuckVideos
ogjimkenobi
Darwinsgift
CDK007
Thunderf00t

The typical votebot or script voting program dumps about 500-1000 one star votes onto a video. When one person can have this sort of effect, it essentially renders the voting system redundant.

I doubt the validity of youtubes statements about reviewing videos.
The Epic Justice video which calls creationists on their malicious and unfair tactics is flagged as being unsuitable for minors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSf5fhb96tI

This is clearly incorrect at best. All attempts I have made to get youtube to rectify the situation have ended in failure. This has the effect of removing the stats from the video, which are significant factors in the traffic the video will receive.

Similarly the video Defending America was removed due to inappropriate contents. This happened when I was having DMCA issues with a creationist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYKEZ3xGhn4

Again, youtube have simply been ineffective in correcting the mistake.


-These are just the issues I am aware of. I am sure the abuse if far more systemic than this. Recently the user frankgone2010 got banned for using a vote bot to better the ratings on his video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHD6lQRQfpw

If a loser like this can put 200 votes on something, abuse of the system is clearly not terribly difficult.

Again youtube, WE ONLY REQUEST A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

I have tried multiple times to contact you over this and they have all failed.

The action laid out in this video is a result of your attempts to avoid contact.


USERS please add the following channels as friends:
http://www.youtube.com/user/aronra
http://www.youtube.com/user/andromedaswake
http://www.youtube.com/user/donexodus2
http://www.youtube.com/user/CDK007
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t

This will enable us to alert thousands to any possible votebot attacks.
Again this is really the users having to fill in for the inadequacies of the System.



-Some feedback would be useful youtube. If you communicate with us, we may be able to accommodate ourselves accordingly and maybe even contribute to solutions. If all you ever yield is silence, then we simply must act by our best guess. This may not be in either our best interest or yours.

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  • i think a new sharing site needs to be made youtube is old news

  • i found some good news, approximately 2.5 million people use adblock plus, with about 300,000 to 400,000 adding it each month.this is google's enemy, for ads are what make them what they are today. i am hoping eventually that at this rate, google will be in tatters soon. the fight is not over, we can still win!! p.s. google will remove this comment soon, because mentioning it will attract more people to it. :)

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  • @hunyamaster69 Yeah... That didn't work.

  • I tried to look for ways to add as friends but on the new format I cannot find the add as a friend button...

  • The New YouTube is about saving cash, YT are losing money. This is done by slowing down clicks on video and saving millions of dollars in Bandwidth charges.

    The VoteBots must hit ther servers so the could save a lot of cash by stopping these VoteBot

    Come on YouTube save your self some miney.

  • @jencynjen No Problem :) It's not a scam thing or i'm not one of them scambot things even check my channel , It's just I'm on it and there's not much users so i'm trying to promote the site lol

  • Well done you are brave

  • Thunderf00t. You Are Correct.

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