Bofors E/L70 40 Air Defence Shoot

Members of the 4th Air Defence Battery, 1st Air Defence Regiment firing the Bofors E/L70 40 at the Annual Air Defence Shoot, Gormanstown, Co. Meath

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• bofor
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• e/l70
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• army
• military

[funkiestmonkeyIRL]

@SAsgarters listen, your an armchair general. I shoot down aircraft in the army. Any point you try and make about air defence is moot.

[funkiestmonkeyIRL]

@Loxleiev, @SAsgarters, @zoperxplex

Loxleiev is correct, 90% of aircraft shot down in the last 20 years have been shot down by anti-aircraft artillery, not missiles!

This system is more than capable even on today's modern battlefield

[BigPapaBear1000]

@SAsgarters well, at any rate the RBS 70 has about half the range as the Bofors. Not only that, but its one shot. you miss and thats it. and you can miss because the missile is guided by a man on the ground. You cant argue that bofors is still an effective AAA.

[SAsgarters]

@BigPapaBear1000 At the moment, this one is immune. It's a beam rider and to my knowledge, no plane currently flying even has any countermeasures for that type of guidance system.

[BigPapaBear1000]

@SAsgarters there's no such thing as a missile immune to countermeasures...if an AA battery was at the ready they could definatley pose a serious threat to an aircraft passing by, especially since there aren't just one, there's usually 5-10 AA guns in a large area.

[SAsgarters]

@BigPapaBear1000 Perhaps they could, but it's unlikely. That's also assuming that they have the exact technology at their disposal, that was already excluded from the scenario.

Missiles fired by manpads are capable of traveling at 3 times the speed of a plane under the circumstances in question. The main exception would be the RBS-70, which might actually have some trouble. However, it's also immune to ECM. I wonder if the same can be said about 3P.

[BigPapaBear1000]

@SAsgarters ...it has a range of 40,000 feet. And a gun crew could identify a target well before that range with today's technology. Its still an effective weapon system. and a missile cannot outurn a plane. they travel at much too high a speed. Not only that, you cant use ECM to stop artillery rounds.

[SAsgarters]

@BigPapaBear1000 Sure, but a low-flying aircraft in the process of moving at high speed from A to B, is not even remotely as vulnerable as one doing business within range of this system. I mentioned reaction time earlier. That's one factor and without advance warning, getting a gun crew to detect, identify, target and engage an aircraft takes more time than it takes for a low-flying, fast aircraft to enter and exit the gun's range.

[BigPapaBear1000]

@SAsgarters this system would still be effective on low level aircraft. wont be as easy to hit them but they'd still pose a threat, especially if they're fitted with flak rounds.

[SAsgarters]

@BigPapaBear1000 To continue: I forgot to add that we were talking about very specific circumstances. It invloved this type of system versus a plane flying nap-of-the-earth.