Craig, Krauss, and Lambda Cold Dark Matter Model
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"Useless things like religion and philosophy...wait, I shouldn't say philosophy is useless." I lol'd.
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In another recent video in which craig along other apologists debate hitchens in a book fair, he shows other evidence of his imminent breakdown. now his kalam has changed: it's not 'whatever begins to exist has a cause' (since he's been pointed that causation is bound to the conservation of matter), but 'whatever exists has a cause, except that whose existence is necessary' LOL. poor spin doctor of nonsense. eventually his imposture will be exposed.
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Ah! Thanks. I was confused. Craig needs to *completely* adjust his thinking, imo. That's one of my chief complaints about theism: it induces (some) believers to deny facts and distort logic in service to a promise-packed fantasy.
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@musekiteer Sorry, I realize my phrasing in that didn't make it very clear lol
I was meaning to say that Craig keeps saying "physicists agree that something came from nothing." When Krauss says something along the lines of "nothing isn't nothing anymore," Craig then claims "but then that's not really nothing!" Which is missing the point. Craig needs to adjust his "nothing" to the correct definition that physicists are actually using, not Krauss.
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To whose definition of nothing are you referring? If you meant mine, then I refer you back to my use of quotes.
Yes, that is the aim of Krauss' presentation. That is why I uploaded this segment, and a link to the original.
Krauss v Craig? Great! Krauss will trash Craig, but Craig and his groupies will never admit it.
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@musekiteer Yes, that is the Craig community's response to Krauss' and modern physicists' ideas. "Well that's not REALLY nothing!?" Um, yeah. And? It is what it is. We're not beholden to your definition of nothing, since the common-sense definition doesn't correspond with physical reality. That's the aim of Krauss' presentation.
Krauss vs. Craig in early 2011, it's official folks ;)
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Truth is the essence of all humour ;D
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The end editing contains cheeky humour. :)
I had watched this video but had forgotten it.
I'll favourite it for reference.
Awesome job with the editing, mate.
mellowmark1 1 year ago
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It was the only way to get WLC to speak the truth ;D
musekiteer 1 year ago 3