Zenless Zen (Negating the Negation)

When we talk about non-attachment to all ideas and concepts, we should always include non-attachment to the concept of negationism itself. Zen, Dao, and similar words are used as a path to letting go of the mind's confusion. Negationism, like Zen, is simply a term of convenience.

The ego, which is our concept of self, desires only to expand its sense of existence to include all things within itself. Spiritual teachings are often welcomed by the ego, because they offer it an opportunity to identify itself with grandiose concepts such as infinity, God, etc.

In order to negate this final desperate attempt by the mind to attach its own concepts to reality, we must negate the concept of negationism itself. Our Zen must become non-zen, our Buddhism non-buddhism, and our Dao non-dao. Only by taking this final step can we free ourselves.

However, you may wonder, what self is freed when the concept of self is negated? The answer is the non-conceptual self. But do not become attached to the words, "non-conceptual self." It is only a term of convenience, pointing directly to our ineffable ordinary experience.

When all concepts are negated, what remains is the non-conceptual. This is all there really is, but the mind has confused itself with thoughts, ideas, and beliefs about it... Negationism is simply a way to stop chasing our tails mentally and make room for direct, wordless experience.

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[aghoranathi]

Cool picture, Nisargadatta is the spelling for the maharaj that you have tagged for this video.

[Negationism]

Thank you, I will fix that.

[torymorton]

whats with the old school apple voice ? stephen hawking?

[rendubot]

wow the last part was just like wow

[amx0x90]

Yup, this is where it's at.

A nondualist who goes by the pseudonym Zil Chezero also talks about exactly this in his book "Dutch Treat". He mentions that the enlightened perspective basicly consists of not believing anything. Not even the belief that one does not believe anything. And in turn, not even the belief that one believes that one does not believe that one believes anything etc..

..into infinity!

This will enable one to cut through the trap of concept based dualism very effectively.

[snbeings]

@DreamerDavious

The self you seek to improve, is just a thought/concept/idea. If you're following Jesus ...you are on a path to Oneness with God. Your own teacher promotes this idea:

John 17:11 ....."so that they can be one, just as we are One" Its all over the Gospel of Thomas (coincidentally the dogmatic fundamentalists hid and banned because the connections to Tao, Zen, Nonduality.

Check out Meister Eckhart.

Also he point of Xtianity = to be like Christ, Selfless, in Oneness w God!!!

[peanarchist]

great vid.

favorited!

[KonohaOwl]

robots...

[DreamerDavious]

Good thoughts, i think the reason i remain a christian is because I seek to improve the self rather than to negatve it, that is to become full and enlightened rather than irradicated.