Crucifixion: Fact or Fiction - Deedat vs Douglas 12 of 12

And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Sura 2 Verse 111

'Crucifixion - Fact or Fiction' - Ahmed Deedat vs. Robert Douglas

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[selfpunisher]

the most wonderful debate .. may ALLAH give u His mercy and Paradise O SHIEKH AHMAD DEEDAT...ameen

honestly i never feel bored with watching these debates every time... praise be to ALLAH for His great gift and favor ( ISLAM )

may ALLAH reward you and support you brother n ALI Akbar

[fascinated143]

Thanks for sharing this debate. May Allah bless you. May Allah give Jannat-ul-Firdose to Mr.Sheikh Ahmed Deedat.

[swiftspy]

@7olusegun : You want the truth, go back to the essence of Jesus: he was a jew, living in a roman conquered city and spoke aramaic (most certainely). Watch Mel Gibson movie without english subtiles, you'll understand nothing. Now, I watched it and as a muslim knowing arabic, I can put many words and sometimes phrases in context: in other words I understood and "feel" it more than any westerner claiming that he has the truth. I will stick to ONE God, try to "save" others. I end here. Peace.

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy Perhaps, it is your own duty to go research thoroughly who allah really is & whether or not he is the god of Abraham, without using your koran. Many of the biblical scriptures had been verified by historical, archaeologic & scientific evidences, including its prophecies from extra-biblical sources like Josephus etc. Its scriptures had been thoroughly scrutinized from the Greek, Aramaic & Hebrew texts. Daring prophecies had been fulfilled 100% correctly. Can that be said of your koran?

[swiftspy]

@7olusegun : @7olusegun : Fathers and sons are to be found "by the tons" in the bible. They have a spiritual meaning, unlless the context shows you differently. Your duty is to learn original language of the scriptures and then read some parts of the bible WITHOUT translation. Don't bother as to show me that Allah is not the only one God. He is the God of Abraham and is unique as it is for jews. Paul has deceived Jesus(pbuh) and you are following him blindly. Jesus never talked in english :-).

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy Jesus always use the Word my "Father" when He was referring to God the Father. He never once said or imply allah to be his father so stop your presumption. In fact, is it not your god allah that forbids his followers calling him "father" (despite claiming to be a loving & benevolent being)? What kind of a god is that? Why do 'very good' people die? Why do humans of all ages die? What bad deeds have they done to warrant death? Answer me all these. Islam will take you to hell if you die.

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy If you're claiming your allah sent Jesus to Earth to teach about him, then you're very most highly deluded ignorant. Why then are muslims & (biblical) christians arch enemies like I said earlier? Answer me. The bible says the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23). Why then do babies die (even in utero) when they have not committed any physical iniquities/sins? Is it not b'cos they inadvertently inherited the sins of Adam & Eve in their genes that brought imperfections, disease & death?....

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy Nope! Paul ain't create 'trinity'. The concept of the 'Holy Trnity' can be foud in the bible & was mentioned by Jesus Christ Himself (Mat. 28:19), not Paul. The word "one" can be used either in the singular or plural. The latter usually as a 'collective' of individuals working in unison, in one perfect accord. E.g. God said "the people is ONE" (Gen.11:6). So God is being (collective) "ONE" (Gen.1:26, 11:7), consisting of 3 distinct individuals working in perfect unison. So think well.

[swiftspy]

@7olusegun : I don't see anything in faith that oppose Islam and Christianity but the trinity. One God in the old and the new testament. Paul created trinity. If you want to believe in a pagan tale, you are welcome to do so. I feel confortable with "Allah" wich is probably the word used by Jesus to talk about God.There no sense in punishing human because of Adam sin. You are deluded and many never received any spirit and died without knowing God. Islam is simple and bring you back to ONE GOD.

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy ..(cont'd).. Lord & Savior is just all the 'work' it takes to be saved from eternal destruction. If you wanna claim allah sent Jesus into the world, how come what Jesus preached/taught was totally different from what your allah god taught & also why are muslims & Christians arch enemies? Is God an author of confusion? How are you more related to faith than the Jews? In Islamic Justification? Hahaha!! I tell you the truth, anyone not saved in Jesus who dies, all will go to hell forever.

[7olusegun]

@swiftspy Wether I follow Paul or Jesus, thou knowest. Even Paul says he is a follower of Jesus. Did Jesus not say (to a rich man) that things with men are impossible but with God all things are possible (in relation to salvation)? The rich man obeyed 'all' the laws from his youth to adulthood, but Jesus said it is hard for that man to be saved. I ain't attacking muslims but saying the truth. Tell me what I said earlier was a twisting of Jesus' teachings. Let me know. Accepting Jesus as your....