Arguments From Ignorance (1/2)
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Occam is my favourite scholastic philosopher. As well as the famous razor, he also had a definition of existence: a thing can exist "in re" (as an actual thing), "in intellectu" (as an idea) and "in nomine" (as a mere name). I think where he was going with this was that Baal (say) exists only "in nomine" (we know nothing about him except his name); the biblical god exists "in intellectu" (as an idea and a social reality), but the Razor rules out his existence "in re". A closet 14th-c atheist.
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@sfyr And you still have not shown us how the god hypothesis is logical or more supported than any other theory out there.
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@sfyr Let me make this very clear. Atheism is simply and exclusively not believing in gods, deities or divinities. Any attitude, behaviour, theory, belief or value apart from that is not, specifically, a function of atheism. This isn't dumbing down the definition of atheism, this is what atheism means. Play with words all you like, but the singular thing in common amongst all atheists is that they don't believe in gods, deities or divinities.
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Hmm.. Does that make it a false theory???
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@sfyr "All Im saying is.. the God hypothesis has more going for it than other theories..` Ehm no it doesn´t. It only hypothesises WHO created the universe. It says nothing about HOW.
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@sfyr Can you actually point out the effect in question? I mean, you said yourself we sin because we have free will and we're corrupted so we "sin" regardless of god's will. Which effect?
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I'm saying there cause is the effect, so whatever caused the universe didn't necessarily have to consciously establish how it behaves. The "rules" of the universe are simply observations we have regarding how the universe behaves, not actual rules.
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What knowledge could we even develop from such theory?
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"How is that any different from an unreal one?"
The real one has an effect >> the universe..
"..the laws of cause and effect weren't existent."
What if.. the moment at which god created the universe
is the moment at which the universe came into being..
Are you saying cause and effect can't be simultaneous???
I get where you're coming from.. God's existence can't be proved..
All Im saying is.. the God hypothesis has more going for it than other theories..
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But guess what? A god is NEVER going to present itself as evidence, because gods don't exist. No supernatural, mythological creature exists outside of the imagination of human beings (unless of course they write about these creatures in a book).
BastEternal 9 months ago 36
@Enayze "If the Muslims or Hindus get it right, I will still be ok" No you won't, because many of the rules and commandments that other religions have come up with are in direct contradiction with the ones you're following. You would be punished.
"Don't hate me" Why would I hate someone I kind of feel sorry for? I'm more angry at the people that taught you all that crap.
"you might not like the message, it still does not make it incorrect" Doesn't make it correct either.
83Hammerhead 8 months ago 9