1 - The History Of Our Universe Made Easy (Part 1)

Forget gods and goblins, here is the real story of how we know the extent of our universe in time and space. Throw away all those religious books and look at some hard evidence.
(Music: Wagner's Lohengrin Prelude)
Video by potholer54, re-uploaded to show subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54

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• universe
• origin
• Christianity
• atheism

[waperboy]

@1000fish1: You got it a bit mixed up there, mate - the "people in a lab with no life" don't "like it". They look at something, asks how it can be, look some more, work out a theory, and say: "For this theory to be correct, X should result if we do A and B". So they do A and B over and over, get X as a result, publish a paper, and a whole lot of other no-life lab people read and repeat these experiments, get X, and can then state that Yes, if you do A and B, X will result. Try and learn somethin

[1000fish1]

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

This is the definition of theory see the part where it says predictions yeah that's a fancy word for guess. Just cuz it's widely accepted doesn't mean its fact it means a bunch of people with no life in a lab like it. And the bible has facts next time you doubt it try to read it.

[manzed]

Now you're asking the right questions! "how did that other two form?" From four 6 dimensional universes of course! And so on - infinitely. My point is, why assuming there is a creator, we have explanations that work without magic? Oh I see your point, you WANT to believe there is a creator, a daddy in the sky, someone who reads your mind etc. Well, i tell you something. I want to believe too, but for me there is not enough evidence. And if there was, i wouldn't have to believe, i would know.

[manzed]

What debate? You kept on saying "No evidence for evolution" and "god is the logical cause for everything". Both statement are ridiculous. If you claim such things you better back it up or you risk people laughing at you. Whenever i called you out you either dodged the question or just ignored it and repeated your claim. Very typical creationist behavior. I suggest reading about Occam's razor, Quantum arrow of time, Quantum Decoherence, Heisenberg uncertainty principle, Anthropic principle

[CrumbLuke]

@manzed I do understand your point, I just do not agree. Have a nice life, and I hope that we both know which ever one of us is right someday.

For clarification, now that you found a way to make universes, how did that other two form? That was my point, it is a rhetorical question, I just wanted to make sure you knew what I was trying to say.

[CrumbLuke]

@manzed To answer your question is was the legitimacy of its theory status, and before you ask they where atheists.

Though, at this point it is clear you aren’t interested in a debate. It was nice talking to you.

[manzed]

@CrumbLuke

"Bio, Chem and Physics professors at UCD and all have agreed with me." What is UCD and what exactly you asked them? Denying Evolution is like denying the Holocaust, the only difference is that for there are still billions of witnesses alive, which makes it MUCH more pathetic to deny. If your professors deny evolution or the status of a scientific theory i would recommend get the fuck out of there! Do you have those "Evolution is just another theory" stickers on your textbooks? lol

[manzed]

@CrumbLuke

This is not getting anywhere, you say, "it's logical, it has to be designed, has to have a cause", yet you can't provide proof for that hypothesis. I'll give you an example how the universe got here without being "created".

Think of 2 soap bubbles, which are 3 dimensional objects. The moment they intersect another body appears "out of nothing" - a 2 dimensional disc. It's not hard to imagine that our 4th dimensional universe is the result of 2 intersecting 5 dimensional universes.

[CrumbLuke]

@manzed Something I forgot to address was my ‘logical point,’ it is founded on the paradigm that all of science and logic based there being action, reaction, cause and effect. If the universe exists there must be a cause; though if you found the root of that change then what caused that change? You have to say that something, not only, outside of our universe, but outside of our plane of existence must have been the point of origin or you are left running in circles…

[CrumbLuke]

@manzed (Part 2 of 2) Second, where as I believe that time was created and do not see any flaw with that point, Gennises 1:3 it says nothing about time just that now that there is light and darkness there is night and day. Trust me I have read the bible many times, I have not found what you have said to be true. I believe we have come to an impasse…