Religious, but not Spiritual?
Good News and Bad News from the World's Largest Religion
It takes a moment to reconcile oneself to the fact that the religious tradition of St. Francis and Mother Th...
Religious, but not Spiritual? Good News and Bad News from the World's Largest Religion
It takes a moment to reconcile oneself to the fact that the religious tradition of St. Francis and Mother Theresa is also the tradition of the Crusades and the Inquisition. Fr. Thomas Keating, considered one of the great contemplatives of our time, has spent a lifetime in the practice of Christianity, seeking and sharing its depths. The goal of the tradition, suggests Fr. Thomas in this week's video, is transformation—but transformation into what?
The answer depends on what stage of development you're at. Beyond becoming a better person (though your family and friends may thank you profusely), beyond even becoming a saint, Fr. Thomas suggests that the goal of the mature Christian life is to become no thing. As with any developmental sequence, the subject of one stage becomes the object of the subject of the next—in this case, until absolute Subjectivity itself. The problem—and the challenge—lie in the fact that, among its 2 billion adherents, relatively few are aware of Christianity's mystical tradition and contemplative path. Statements like "I'm spiritual, but not religious" actually come from a fairly evolved place, from which one rejects external aspects of the tradition, while still longing for its esoteric wisdom.
Integral spirituality offers an entirely new perspective on this question. From this perspective, we can see that although the stories of the world's religious traditions vary wildly, the contemplative experience is essentially similar. And from Integral, we can appreciate the stories for what they are, the first rung in a ladder of development—both our own development, and that of anyone on a similar path. In the end, no matter how profound the state in which we experience the divine, it is always interpreted from our stage of development.
Integral also points to the reality of our shadow, and points out that we might need something other than our contemplative practice to bring it into the light. Finally, Integral can help us both to transform into deeper stages of awareness and compassion, and to translate our current stage in the healthiest way possible.
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Checking the comments once again clearly illustrates that RELIGION itself has been humanities bane since it's very inception. Yes, I dare say it 'religion, is the root of all evil'! ok, maybe not all evil. But there is no denying that historically more wars have been fought, and more people have been killed for religious reasons than any other... oh errr, wait, it's not just historically, is it? People are still killed, and wars are still being fought in 'the name of religion' even today...
@ClaudeusGothicus yeah ken wilber explains psychologically how its becuz ppl have been at too low a developmental level to allow others to be themselves. but spirituality, NOT RELIGION, provides methods of accelerating psychological growth. do u get how important that is?
@theeonionbagel more specifically, meditation has been empirically proven to do this. to facilitate feelings of love, peace and compassion, and to help us transcend our nasty shadows
yes, I agree meditation is very beneficial on many levels. however my comment didn't address spirituality, only religion; and more specifically, which I should have stated clearly, organized religion. spirituality and religion are not necessarily the same thing. you might note that my comment was in reference to the prior postings, and was not a commentary on the content of this video.
MORE THAN 500 people saw Jesus after death. Documents were written within 20-30 years after death about his RESSURECTION. How could thos have so much power? Besides...the message is truly revolutionary...Love one another love God...WOW....the people who are truly human really understand Jesus.
From my understanding jesus, Yeshu, Yeshuah was a devout Jew as was his bro James. In fact it was Paul who drifted from the jewish path and allowing non torah keeping people into the new faith. Jesus always said he didnt come to change the law (torah)
You should Simone Weil She is a Jew who became a christian mystic and talks about the process of decreation in order to understand the true reality. However she refused to become a catholic becuase she didnt want to be part of a collectivity the same way she felt about her jewish background, hence why she struggled with the concept of anarchism which for me is the true utopia
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She is a Jew who became a christian mystic and talks about the process of decreation in order to understand the true reality. However she refused to become a catholic becuase she didnt want to be part of a collectivity the same way she felt about her jewish background, hence why she struggled with the concept of anarchism which for me is the true utopia