"F Files" Interview with Robert Jensen (1 of 6)
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Awesome! Totally going in my favorites. :)
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@sgsilver maybe you were watching to much porn... to much of anything and you loose the balance in life, maybe you were into the wrong sought of porn. Who is really the victim, the girl making the porn, the guy making the porn, the guy/girl buying the porn... or nobody? Well it depends on each scenario... It's like blaming Alcohol for giving us alcoholics, drunk drivers, and general social violence. Alcohol, Porn... there just catalysts, which can bite in the wrong hands but not all hands.
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@sgsilver I've been watching porn since I was 7 years old. If i've been mentally "somewhere else" while having sex with a partner I can't say that its because of a reason other than i'm not enjoying having sex with the partner... which is because of a problem between us. To say being bored in bed is because of the hot girl you work with or have seen in a magazine, is like saying adultry is the cause of relationship breakdowns, when infact its the relationship breakdown that causes adultry.
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I love Robert, so brilliant. Great essays, speeches...
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@sgsilver If you used sex appeal to try to sell a product that wouldn't have sold on it's own, you will probably make more sales than without the advertising. However, if you advertised at all that would be the case, I wouldn't be surprised if sex appeal sold more, but it's not going to sway anyone who wouldn't have bought the product anyway. The point of advertising to grab and maintain the attention of your possible patrons. It doesn't twist people's thinking unless they're already twisted.
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Pornography isn't "affecting" anything, if they think critically. It's not the pornography that's doing it. The men are choosing this behavior, pornography or not. People can choose for themselves. If people watch videos about rich people, that doesn't automatically make them become rich.
Jensen's book is filled with non-sequitur arguments.
you called porn an "ugly form of sexuality"???
I guess you didn´t watch too much porn then, you can´t just say that because there are lot of genres in porn, and there is always one who will fit your fantasies just right...
Maybe you have a totally hot woman (or man, I don´t care), the one you dream about, and you have sex with her periodically...if you don´t, at least you can wath her having sex!
Why? Because of porn!!!
fedea82 3 years ago
I actually used to consume quite a lot of porn before I finally understood what it was doing to my sexuality and my view of women.
sgsilver 3 years ago 6
For your information, we choose our own views about the world. It doesn't come from the outside. Choosing not to view porn is an example of this. Nothing was really "doing" anything to your sexuality.
MacoutesGabber 2 years ago
I always find it interesting when men claim that pornography doesn't affect their sexuality or their view of women. If media didn't affect those who consume it, then it wouldn't make much sense for the advertising industry to spend billions of dollars a year on media for just that purpose. Those men who consume pornography and believe that it doesn't affect their sexuality or their view of women are deluding themselves.
sgsilver 2 years ago 6
Actually, those who don't think that SOME men could have thought about women negatively, BEFORE the invention of modern porn are the ones who are delusional. The media is affected by our choices, not the other way around. Give critical thinking some credit. If you choose not to give in to pornography's "view" of women, then you're saying we can't think for ourselves. Nonsense.
MacoutesGabber 2 years ago 2
More and more young women are reporting that their boyfriends are asking them to do things that they see in pornography. Many report that their boyfriends are "somewhere else" mentally, fantasizing that they are in a pornographic video. Pornography is negatively affecting men's perceptions of their own sexuality and their view of women. It certainly did with me, and it certainly has with many other men.
sgsilver 2 years ago 2
Critical thinking is indeed important; men need to think critically about the images they are consuming and how it is affecting their own sexuality and their relationships.
If you're really open to thinking critically, then I'd advise you to read Jensen's book "Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity". It's very accessible, albeit disturbing, and raises questions not only about the consumption of pornography, but about the concept of masculinity as a whole.
sgsilver 2 years ago