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[cfbastiat]

The problem w/ advocating the free market in realms unheard of is that it requires details where there are no precedents. It's like asking what cars will be like in 50 yrs. Yet the whole point of a free market is that people are not omniscient & that an ongoing seeking out process is best.

Define property how you like, but in a free society people would have "credit scores" for their behavior. Trust is the only real currency.

Don't buy a house w/o signing an egress clause if you're worried.

[pyrrho314]

it seems to me that the systematics ensure that someone will be affected by egress issues, and that is what we consider in system design of any sort. What are the stresses on the system over all, just because some parts of the bridge carry no load is no reason not to calculate where the load goes. In this system, even if the NPA is followed universally, coercion with control of (locally) vital resources will be the focus of coercive pressures.

[cfbastiat]

This mentality is the cause of big government. How can people possibly solve their problems without ceding power to "wise" planners who can figure out all of the possible "systematics"?

You are trying to plan for every possible contingency. This is a fools game that stems from fear of chaos & the notion that people are unthinking cogs in a machine for you to tinker with. Just remember, people are not bridges, cogs, or clay for you to mold.

They can actually solve their problems without you.

[pyrrho314]

every KNOWN contingency, that's all, not EVERY contingency... you are asking us to ignore KNOWN factors in social systems.

and I don't say it's to tap into the "wisdom" of individual planners... it's the "wisdom" of collaborative design... of many heads and many points of view put toward solving a common problem.

nothing personal, hate to be sweeping, but you guys tend to trivialize and simplify your opponents on these issues... no, I'm not looking for daddy... no state is ever my daddy.

[CousinoMacul]

Well said.

[pyrrho314]

thanks CousinoMacul

[cfbastiat]

Can you trust the planners to be aware of all the known contingencies & can you be certain that what is known today will be true tomorrow? The world is not static.

There is not always wisdom in collaborative design. Otherwise every company would always flourish.

Collaboration occurs in the free market all the time. Those that help satisfy our demands are rewarded & those which don't must dissolve & go on to pastures new.

There is no opponent here - just someone trying to hash out the truth.

[pyrrho314]

great :)

[Cherri59]

In this I agree with you completely.