Palestininas systematically say no NO to peace, No to recognision, at any chance:
1937 - Peel Commission
1947- UN Partition Plan
1964 - PLO establishment
1967 - Following the 6-day-war humaliation
2000 - Camp David summit
2005 - Gaza handover
2007 - Annapolis summit
The palestinians never lose the chance to lose the chance!
@nivavw Can I get the point of these discussions at no time had contact with the Palestinian leadership. Trying to impose conditions of oppression of a people is no different from Hitler's actions ...
sonadoalaikor 2 weeks ago
@GustavoCLa There is no "Palestinians". It is a name that was given to the land of Israel by the British Mandate. My grandmother who was born here had a "Palestinian" passport and so did my grandfather and 600,000 Arabs immigrated into the Land of Israel after the collapse of Ottoman Empire.
only one land in the middle east is NOT under an "occupation" - and that is the Land of Israel. Jordan (Trans Jordan) is usurped, so is every other of the recently invented states in the middle east...
nivavw 5 months ago
@nivavw I'm talking about Israel here, not Saudi Arabia. There are plenty of churches in the Middle East, including in Iran, sinagogues in Iran too, not in Saudi Arabia. I'm not talking about freedom of religion here, I'm talking about an occupation of a foreing country, and the only case in the Middle East is in Palestine, occupied by Israel. Saudi Arabia has no freedom of religion but no one forces jews to go to Saudi Arabia. Palestinian are beeing oppresed in their own land.
GustavoCLa 5 months ago
@GustavoCLa And it is not the Jews that occupy Arab land. It is Arabs that occupy Jewish land.
nivavw 5 months ago
@GustavoCLa If Arabs had peaceful intention they would open their villages and their countries to Jews and Christians. Can you mention one church in Saudi Arabia? Iran? How about a public sermon by a priest or a Rabbi in any of the Muslim countries? Do you know what the Arabs do to a Jew if he rents an apartment in an Arabic village or even just a predominantly Arab neighborhood?
Talk about "peace"...
nivavw 5 months ago
@nivavw I think an occupation for 44 years is more of a declaration of and a proof for one's not peaceful intention. Hamas is not a representant of the Palestinian people. The settlement would be peaceful intentions if they were open for all. Now all they do is that they confiscate Arab land and cut the West Bank in a series of Arab clusters not connected with each other.
GustavoCLa 5 months ago
@GustavoCLa First of all you are not staying on truck but jumping from one argument to another. Now that you have admitted that the settlements are not the cause of the conflict, let's move to your next axiom - "Ultimate proof"? Really?! somehow I think that it is universally agreed that rockets and bombs are more of a declaration of war and a proof for one's NOT peaceful intention than agriculture and high tech settlements.
nivavw 5 months ago
@nivavw No.
GustavoCLa 5 months ago
@nivavw Of course the settlements are not the cause. They are just the ultimate proof that Israel is not serious about peace.
GustavoCLa 5 months ago
@222steiny Opressors playing the victim disgust me.
GustavoCLa 5 months ago