Differences and non-duality

Response to pyrrho314
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kTaue0igeMs

It is differences all the way down, no doubt. That is why I like the fractal metaphor. Differences all the way; however, self-similar patterns seem to pop up way too often for difference to be ultimate. Pi is interesting in this context... it will remain forever incomplete and will never repeat, but even so, the circle it represents just goes around and around and around...

The cosmos is non-dual, but I'm not trying to assert a form of monism. Whatever reality is, it seems incomplete precisely because we can never know what it is. That would require an objective point of view, and that's not what I'm trying to assert, either.

Reality is still evolving. All aspects of it are interdependent and related, even if they don't know it. Knowing it in the traditional sense, again, would be impossible, as no knowledge is objective. All seeing is doing, all observation contributes something to what is observed. A lot of mystics say we should live in a cloud of unknowing for this reason. I don't think we need to give up knowledge entirely, though. We just have to put it back in context, see it as relative and relational, and drop the idea that it represents an externally existing, information containing objective world who's laws remain forever unchanging and whose behavior we can manipulate and design for our own purposes. This leads in practice to human activity and technology that runs counter to the flow of nature, which has no preconceived purposes or goals in mind but continual relationship with itself. Whatever patterns and dance moves arise in the tide of time, all remain connected to the ocean of eternity. The non-duality stuff is just trying to remind us that the differences we know exist in context, that no ultimate difference exists.

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[patternsinchaos]

Great points. Excellent analysis. Thanks Matt. I'm not sure the scientific world has concluded that we are just machines. There are many well respected scientists who realize that there is more there than may meet the eye. ;-)

[0ThouArtThat0]

yes, i know. I said "modern, traditional science" to distinguish it from the cutting edge research going on. "Normal science" (in Kuhn's sense) is still treating organisms like machines. "Revolutionary science" is trying to shift the paradigm.

[claytonfairn]

totally relative, relative to other truths we as humans have agreed upon. But does agreement equate to reality? What does the idea that i am not separate from life mean in the intensity of a death in the family, or kidney stones, or anything like that? in my experience The only freedom that is the freedom from belief the freedom from taking imagination as truth or reality. just made my first vid check it out "nonduality and belief" good vid tho thouartthat!

[claytonfairn]

Dont get me wrong there is some great debate going on here but if anyone is searching for freedom from separation, no truth is going to set you free so to speak, its not that there is no difference between a tree and a car, it's that thought is what makes the distinction. Its not going to give you the identity of a liberated individual to know scientifically that a tree and a car are made of the same "stuff" so to speak. i got caught up in the truth game for years only to find that truth is

[peterjordan16910]

@Simulacra541 yes everything in the world apears dual even the concept of non-duality. for non duality to appear in the world of duality it has to appear in dual. very fucked up world yes?

Peace.

[peterjordan16910]

remember there is no 2 things itentical in the world therefore all numbers apart from 1 are mearly theories.

Peace

[TheLovesoul1]

@0ThouArtThat0 thank you man if you have a vid u'd like to see on my channel just email me or whatever that sounds like a nice cat.(000)

[tygesh]

Ohh he must be a wise boy to confuse himself this much. HELLO there: You do not sound wise okay.... You conceptualize and mentalize and intellectualize. STOP THINKING!!! That´s what it´s all about, - rather than trying to sound deeply clever to others.

[YuukoFyeSeishirou]

Please could you answer me that??

What are other people???

We are one, yet we are separate. We create our universe, yet other people also do. Then how do we interact? Are we really interacting? What is the boundary between our doings and other people doings? Do we really "create" other people, if it all depends on our mind? And thus... do other people really exist?

Too much for me sorry I'll be grateful if you could answer somehow.

Ps: Cute the cat miaowing in the background

[Simulacra541]

"duality vs nonduality is a duality unto itself.." is the truth. You can't escape it on your own.

[cybercruser]

What I hear from all of the non dual traditions over and over again is that you can't think your way to 'enlightenment'/'realization' (even though it is already the fact - most people just aren't aware of it). Furthermore, these theoretic understandings and debates can become obstacles in themselves.

[MaBu888]

! Yes !