David Robinson, Executive Director of Pax Christi USA

Cathpresbyter...you are exactly right in your posts...People don't know that this PaxChristi is a group of dissident liberals who think they can camouflage under the title of "catholics". How dare they sully our Church with their idiotic, perverse, liberal agendas. .

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Catholic faith, morals, and action cannot rest ONLY with dogmas and sexual ethics such as opposition to abortion and contraception (which by the way, I do *NOT* dissent from Humanae Vitae)... I don't reject any of the dogmas or the teachings on sexual ethics or about abortion- but I also realize now just how VITAL the social teachings are, such as PREFERENTIAL OPTION FOR THE POOR.

I say all these things with love for you, and hope and pray that you too will come to this realization.

I think it is COMPLETELY Catholic to do all one can to try to avoid war- or even to embrace complete pacifism if one feels so compelled... to see the dignity in each person- including one's enemies...

What about the millions of humans who have died as the result of war? Perhaps one million dead Iraqis- and thousands of US soldiers dead- all as the result of a war/occupation which much/all evidence appears to show as being unjustified and fought for economic purposes?

Are right-wing American (and other) conservatives really pro-life when they often favor war and militarism; oppose unions (and the just wages and respect for the dignity of workers which they bring); oppose health care for all; favor imprisonment, retribution, and the death penalty; favor special treatment for the ultra-wealthy and oppose a more just distribution of wealth???? We must begin to realize how crucial these issues are- we must care about people AFTER they are born too!

I used to be a conservative member of the SSPX and had an outlook somewhat similar to yours, CathPresbyter. But thankfully, I have had a conversion and enlightenment about peace and social justice issues. We must stand up for peace.