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Addiction - Genetic Disease? If it were in fact genetic, then it would be a pre-existing condition in which no insurance company should have to pay for it.

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[Deadperson213]

What I don't like about the whole "disease" argument is that it makes alchoholics feel sorry for themselves, and it makes them feel like they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Bullshit. If a person has "ADD" and finds it much more harder to concentrate he still has to find some way to cope, build self discipline and do his work just like any other functioning person in society.

[isegoria1]

Its not a matter of just taking responsibility for actions. I am sure you will agree that there is a moral obligation difference between disease and acts of volition.

[loadbrecht]

you made that clear for me!!!

sometime you need someone outside your own little world to tell you what things realy are

your a very wise man!

[isegoria1]

Support your accusations by citing the author, article name, date, and volume from a peer reviewed medical journal.

I am sure you do not have one publicized on this topic - I looked it up.

Your "Argument from Authority" holds no water with me or my subscribers.

[isegoria1]

Nice blinders. People are more entitled to facts.

[isegoria1]

You have yet to quote any peer reviewed medical journal which publishes your claims. This they are nothing more than wild claims and you know it. I am not sure where you think you will get with this intellectual dishonesty.

"I was just asking you to re-check the research being done. " And I am asking you to cite the research, but you have evaded the issue.

I never once said that these people did not need some level of help.

[isegoria1]

"Finally, you are quite mistaken on how "pre-existing conditions" work in the insurance world. Look it up. "

Explain how you can have a "genetic" link and not have a pre-existing condition.

You can not have your cake and eat it too.

[isegoria1]

"that is why I work at a center that is making a difference to those afflicted with it."

It is clear that you are a 12 step proponent. 12 step has a success ratio of 5% with and 5% without.

"I hope that you open your heart a bit."

Special pleading? Why not look at the facts?

"These people can be helped and are worth helping. "

Special pleading part II?? in an ill thought attempt to villianize me and make the statement that certain people are not worth saving. Not my statement - yours.

[NIRehab]

Latin? really? You dismiss a rational, fact based argument? I am not trying to attack you. I apologize if it felt that way. I was just asking you to re-check the research being done. Please understand that I see "dirty drug addicts" everyday. They are reach-able. They are often good people. They need help.

[isegoria1]

"There are many links that can be found by doing a simple internet search that back up what I have said above." But yet you will provide no links or references. I was not the one making extraordinary claims thus the need for extraordinary evidence falls on you.

"Just google it." I have and Google is not a peer reviewed medical journal. Please quote page, date, and issue of the publishing if you can.

"It is an ugly horrible disease," Not listed as disease in the DSMIV - simply not a disease.

[NIRehab]

I protect our clients that have been brave enough to talk about addiction. I will not and should not apologize for it. You got to comment the ones that had our staff. You are entitled to your opinion.