@Einfrein Well Terdsak Janpan's name was written beside all of Jay Chou's songs it said composed by Jay chou+ Terdsak Janpan. then I looked him up. he's an actual composer, composing music way before Jay Chou even started out. I think that's why Jay Chou chose him. so it's quite obvious that he needed help with the composing. otherwise why else would he need him?
But I'm not saying 100% that he did write it. I just think so.
Yeah well, he is still the songwriter of the song, whether he used help or not, right? As well as the other ones also may be classified as the songwriter of the song, but he probably came up with the main music of each song, or else he wouldn't be credited as the composer/songwriter, right?
And yes, Terdsak Japan DEFINITELY wrote some of the songs in the movie, and he MAY have helped Jay Chou with some of Jay's songs.
Yeah, I know, I watched that video too. That's why I was so confused, but if that's all the argument you have for Terdsak Japan writing it, I really don't believe he wrote it. I rather believe the uploader of that video, and thereby the writer of that description, is wrong. It says Jay Chou wrote that song on my original sheet music, plus he used one of Lu Xiao Yu's theme in his song "Pu Gong Ying De Yue Ding" (Dandelion's Promise), and he has all the credits for writing the music.
Secret 2 hasn't been produced yet, so it's no wonder why you haven't seen it yet ;)
Yes it was a great movie, both the story and music, but it had some loopholes in it. But still among my favourite films.
Well, it says "Music by: Terdsak Japan, Jay Chou", even if you missed it. It is understandable that you didn't pay any attention to who wrote the music if you didn't even know Jay Chou wrote music, although if you really enjoyed the music you might've read that.
@Einfrein I'm not assuming that.... I know that he didn't. because it was composed by someone else. says somewhere on someone's video of them performing it. " Original song composed by Terdsak Janpan and performed by Jay Chou."
watch?v=zhc8WjOlax0
I also looked at some of the credits and it shows that Jay chou didn't compose all of the songs on his own he had help from others to compose the pieces... even on the song "secret".
@Einfrein I know he directed it... actually thinking about it. I did read that in the Wikipedia after I watched secret 1. I even read all about secret in the Wikipedia to see when secret 2 was coming out, but I didn't see where they say he composed the music they only say it's directed by him. Well anyways secret 1 was a good movie especially for those who enjoy classical music, I haven't watched secret 2 yet I'd like to see what other nice pieces of music it has.
He did fake play in the movie, I think almost everyone does, but I also think that he can play it, as he showed here. Maybe not perfect, but he can play it.
Fine. Let's say I was wrong there, I admit it. I did mean songwriter, but didn't I say that he "composed" songs for himself, and lots of other artists? I clearly said songs, by then you should've understood I meant he wrote songs.
He isn't very well-known as an actor. He IS known as a songwriter. He was discovered in 1998 at a talent contest show, and ever since he's been known for writing his own music. Not for acting. Just for people in USA for seeing The Green Hornet and such.
Well you wrongly assumed something then, didn't you?
How do you know he didn't write Lu Xiao Yu? I'm not sure he did, but I purchased a book of sheet music from the movie and it says that he composed it. And it was an original sheet music book.
That's why I said "almost nothing of what you said was true". ALMOST.
and you're a jay chou fan that's fine. you just don't have to go forcing your fanatic jay chou love on other people.
Just like I'm not grilling you about how Yiruma can compose much nicer pieces of music than this" jay chou guy" thinks he can compose but plays with no emotion. just a show off in my opinion (note the sarcasm) "
and anyways many people that know him here don't know whether he composed the song or not. and the only reason I got mixed up was because I asked someone here and they said no way he composed something like this.... until someone told me it said so in the credits. and nicolenicole118 seems to know alot about him. and anyways so what? it's not the end of the world if someone says he didn't. you could just nicely tell them.... instead of a rude confrontation.
@Einfrein yes you don't know that much about music. you get mixed up with songwriter and composer. before you come and saying nasty stuff. my point is he is Not known very well as a piano composer. he is not known like Yiruma or Kevin Kern but better known as an actor. I know he Can Compose for the piano but he barely does.... its a side thing. so just chill out. not everyone goes reading up every little detail about them unless there some stocker fan
@Einfrein he didn't compose Lu Xiao Yu so I assumed he didn't compose this one aswell. well anyways that comment was before someone told me it showed up in the credits. besides that he did compose this, most of what I said was right. "actors are given lines to say and parts to play" is that not true?
Now I don't know anything about music? Haha, it's funny how you can make that assumption out of our conversation.
Let's make this short. The first thing you said that I replied to was "a lot of people have the wrong idea. he did play the piece in the movie, but it does not mean he composed it himself. well you see, in a movie, actors are giving lines to say, and they are given songs to sing and pieces to play. Jay Chou is an actor, remember? not a composer". Is that correct? No.
@Einfrein now you are the idiot. you don't even know what I'm talking about before you just protrude in with your mindless comment....and I wasn't even talking to you. my comment is correct and if you still don't know what I'm talking about... go to my very first comment. and you can just reply to this comment. sure he writes his own songs to sing.. they're are plenty of other artists that do that. but obviously he doesn't compose music like in this video very often..... clear now?
@Einfrein That's just it.. I never said he doesn't write his own songs. I said he doesn't compose.................................................. duh...... you're talking about a singer-composer. I'm not even talking about stupid songs. I'm talking about PIECES. just to make it all clear for you since you have absolutely NO idea of what you're talking about. yes Jay chou his own writes songs like you said but I said he doesn't compose and I never said "songs" and duh this is a piano video
@Einfrein okay I get it now. you're talking about songs like Pop, RnB, Hip Hop etc. like a singer-composer
I'm not talking about that at all. so I don't need to go check my facts out,YOU go check your facts out before you start falsely accusing someone. and how dare you talk to anyone like that, you're a little prick that doesn't know anything about music. I suggest you go do your research. and I don't mean internet research I mean real research BTW. FUCK OFF
Yes I read all of them and replied to all of them. You can just go ahead and reply to those too. I don't understand what you're going on about, since we all know you are wrong. He is a composer, he's written all of his songs plus other artists plus soundtracks to film, and you still claim he writes very little music.
I read all you wrote, and replied, and I still don't get what the hell you "really" mean.
Yes, sure, there are a huge load of people that doesn't know that he's a composer, but I just told you he is. And he writes loads of music. And you denied it. You are wrong. And you don't won't even admit it after I've told you so.
Yeah a soda is going to help me make you understand how wrong you are and how right I am. Okay. Sure.
the beginning part must be repeated 2 times
wisnu1231 6 months ago
@abchangk he still a human dude.. :)
666Deathscythe 7 months ago
I think he would've gone 100 years into the past if he played that fast in the movie. LOL
Yasminmonlol 7 months ago
@Einfrein Well Terdsak Janpan's name was written beside all of Jay Chou's songs it said composed by Jay chou+ Terdsak Janpan. then I looked him up. he's an actual composer, composing music way before Jay Chou even started out. I think that's why Jay Chou chose him. so it's quite obvious that he needed help with the composing. otherwise why else would he need him?
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
But I'm not saying 100% that he did write it. I just think so.
Yeah well, he is still the songwriter of the song, whether he used help or not, right? As well as the other ones also may be classified as the songwriter of the song, but he probably came up with the main music of each song, or else he wouldn't be credited as the composer/songwriter, right?
And yes, Terdsak Japan DEFINITELY wrote some of the songs in the movie, and he MAY have helped Jay Chou with some of Jay's songs.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Yeah, I know, I watched that video too. That's why I was so confused, but if that's all the argument you have for Terdsak Japan writing it, I really don't believe he wrote it. I rather believe the uploader of that video, and thereby the writer of that description, is wrong. It says Jay Chou wrote that song on my original sheet music, plus he used one of Lu Xiao Yu's theme in his song "Pu Gong Ying De Yue Ding" (Dandelion's Promise), and he has all the credits for writing the music.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Secret 2 hasn't been produced yet, so it's no wonder why you haven't seen it yet ;)
Yes it was a great movie, both the story and music, but it had some loopholes in it. But still among my favourite films.
Well, it says "Music by: Terdsak Japan, Jay Chou", even if you missed it. It is understandable that you didn't pay any attention to who wrote the music if you didn't even know Jay Chou wrote music, although if you really enjoyed the music you might've read that.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@Einfrein I'm not assuming that.... I know that he didn't. because it was composed by someone else. says somewhere on someone's video of them performing it. " Original song composed by Terdsak Janpan and performed by Jay Chou."
watch?v=zhc8WjOlax0
I also looked at some of the credits and it shows that Jay chou didn't compose all of the songs on his own he had help from others to compose the pieces... even on the song "secret".
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein I know he directed it... actually thinking about it. I did read that in the Wikipedia after I watched secret 1. I even read all about secret in the Wikipedia to see when secret 2 was coming out, but I didn't see where they say he composed the music they only say it's directed by him. Well anyways secret 1 was a good movie especially for those who enjoy classical music, I haven't watched secret 2 yet I'd like to see what other nice pieces of music it has.
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
True, that's why I said you should get your facts right before commenting (okay maybe I didn't say it like that, but still?).
And for the record, he also directed it ;)
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
He did fake play in the movie, I think almost everyone does, but I also think that he can play it, as he showed here. Maybe not perfect, but he can play it.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Fine. Let's say I was wrong there, I admit it. I did mean songwriter, but didn't I say that he "composed" songs for himself, and lots of other artists? I clearly said songs, by then you should've understood I meant he wrote songs.
He isn't very well-known as an actor. He IS known as a songwriter. He was discovered in 1998 at a talent contest show, and ever since he's been known for writing his own music. Not for acting. Just for people in USA for seeing The Green Hornet and such.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Well you wrongly assumed something then, didn't you?
How do you know he didn't write Lu Xiao Yu? I'm not sure he did, but I purchased a book of sheet music from the movie and it says that he composed it. And it was an original sheet music book.
That's why I said "almost nothing of what you said was true". ALMOST.
Einfrein 10 months ago
I didn't expect that he would be composing all the pieces in the movie.
it's as unlikely as an actor doing all of their own stunts in a movie. flips, fancy driving maneuvers and everything. who would suspect that?
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein there are alot of people who fake the playing in the movies but can't really play.
1Sedicar 10 months ago
and you're a jay chou fan that's fine. you just don't have to go forcing your fanatic jay chou love on other people.
Just like I'm not grilling you about how Yiruma can compose much nicer pieces of music than this" jay chou guy" thinks he can compose but plays with no emotion. just a show off in my opinion (note the sarcasm) "
1Sedicar 10 months ago
and anyways many people that know him here don't know whether he composed the song or not. and the only reason I got mixed up was because I asked someone here and they said no way he composed something like this.... until someone told me it said so in the credits. and nicolenicole118 seems to know alot about him. and anyways so what? it's not the end of the world if someone says he didn't. you could just nicely tell them.... instead of a rude confrontation.
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein yes you don't know that much about music. you get mixed up with songwriter and composer. before you come and saying nasty stuff. my point is he is Not known very well as a piano composer. he is not known like Yiruma or Kevin Kern but better known as an actor. I know he Can Compose for the piano but he barely does.... its a side thing. so just chill out. not everyone goes reading up every little detail about them unless there some stocker fan
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein he didn't compose Lu Xiao Yu so I assumed he didn't compose this one aswell. well anyways that comment was before someone told me it showed up in the credits. besides that he did compose this, most of what I said was right. "actors are given lines to say and parts to play" is that not true?
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Now I don't know anything about music? Haha, it's funny how you can make that assumption out of our conversation.
Let's make this short. The first thing you said that I replied to was "a lot of people have the wrong idea. he did play the piece in the movie, but it does not mean he composed it himself. well you see, in a movie, actors are giving lines to say, and they are given songs to sing and pieces to play. Jay Chou is an actor, remember? not a composer". Is that correct? No.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@Einfrein now you are the idiot. you don't even know what I'm talking about before you just protrude in with your mindless comment....and I wasn't even talking to you. my comment is correct and if you still don't know what I'm talking about... go to my very first comment. and you can just reply to this comment. sure he writes his own songs to sing.. they're are plenty of other artists that do that. but obviously he doesn't compose music like in this video very often..... clear now?
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein That's just it.. I never said he doesn't write his own songs. I said he doesn't compose.................................................. duh...... you're talking about a singer-composer. I'm not even talking about stupid songs. I'm talking about PIECES. just to make it all clear for you since you have absolutely NO idea of what you're talking about. yes Jay chou his own writes songs like you said but I said he doesn't compose and I never said "songs" and duh this is a piano video
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@Einfrein okay I get it now. you're talking about songs like Pop, RnB, Hip Hop etc. like a singer-composer
I'm not talking about that at all. so I don't need to go check my facts out,YOU go check your facts out before you start falsely accusing someone. and how dare you talk to anyone like that, you're a little prick that doesn't know anything about music. I suggest you go do your research. and I don't mean internet research I mean real research BTW. FUCK OFF
1Sedicar 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Yes I read all of them and replied to all of them. You can just go ahead and reply to those too. I don't understand what you're going on about, since we all know you are wrong. He is a composer, he's written all of his songs plus other artists plus soundtracks to film, and you still claim he writes very little music.
I read all you wrote, and replied, and I still don't get what the hell you "really" mean.
Einfrein 10 months ago
@1Sedicar
Yes, sure, there are a huge load of people that doesn't know that he's a composer, but I just told you he is. And he writes loads of music. And you denied it. You are wrong. And you don't won't even admit it after I've told you so.
Yeah a soda is going to help me make you understand how wrong you are and how right I am. Okay. Sure.
Einfrein 10 months ago