@aconfusedazn Yes, but its STILL not their own car. Its not a Buick. Yes,Opel and Buick are both members of GM group, but they have nothing in common. Of course GM has a right to sell an Opel re-branded to Buick, but Buick doesn't have a right to brag and call it their own car as if they developed i, they only put their badge on. Its as if TATA decided to rebrand the Jaguar XJ and sell it as TATA Whatever, and call it an Indian car. Maybe its legally ok, but its a dirty move IMHO.
@derbigpr500 Point is, they own it and can market it however they want. GM finances the development of every one of their cars--so yes they do own the product that comes from their investment. Any stage of development would be impossible if it weren't for what's in paper (both contractual & in terms of money). I'm sorry, and in a sense it's sad to see, but what goes on in paper has everything as much to do as what the engineers design. Would I have liked the car better if badged Opel? Yes.
@aconfusedazn Just because you own a part of some company on paper, doesn't mean its yours completely and it doesn't mean that the products that company makes are yours, especially if you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any stage of development. It would at least a decent thing to mention the origin of the car, instead of saying that its "an american saloon that can compete with german rivals" like most reviewers conclude, which is ridiculous and shameless in my opinion.
@aconfusedazn That doesn't matter.Opel developed this car entirely. Every piece of this car has been engineered and developed by german engineers in a german factory called Opel, which is, and has been developing cars independently of GM ownership. Same as Jaguar today develops their cars on their own, even though Indian TATA owns them. So when american brand just puts a badge on a car that was not developed by them, and then claims its an american car...its just ridiculous.
@derbigpr500 Opel became a majority-stake subsidiary of the American General Motors Corporation in 1929 and has been a wholly owned subsidiary since 1931. So, it is their own.
Call it a Buick or an Opel, it's still a nice-looking car. But who is GM talking to with those PepBoys chrome wheels?
ghostwriter11 1 month ago
very nice, high five
robbap1 1 month ago
This week you get to drive the 2012 Buick Regal GS... -And for that you give us the silent treatment.
trefod 1 month ago
@aconfusedazn Yes, but its STILL not their own car. Its not a Buick. Yes,Opel and Buick are both members of GM group, but they have nothing in common. Of course GM has a right to sell an Opel re-branded to Buick, but Buick doesn't have a right to brag and call it their own car as if they developed i, they only put their badge on. Its as if TATA decided to rebrand the Jaguar XJ and sell it as TATA Whatever, and call it an Indian car. Maybe its legally ok, but its a dirty move IMHO.
derbigpr500 1 month ago
@derbigpr500 Point is, they own it and can market it however they want. GM finances the development of every one of their cars--so yes they do own the product that comes from their investment. Any stage of development would be impossible if it weren't for what's in paper (both contractual & in terms of money). I'm sorry, and in a sense it's sad to see, but what goes on in paper has everything as much to do as what the engineers design. Would I have liked the car better if badged Opel? Yes.
aconfusedazn 1 month ago
@aconfusedazn Just because you own a part of some company on paper, doesn't mean its yours completely and it doesn't mean that the products that company makes are yours, especially if you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any stage of development. It would at least a decent thing to mention the origin of the car, instead of saying that its "an american saloon that can compete with german rivals" like most reviewers conclude, which is ridiculous and shameless in my opinion.
derbigpr500 1 month ago
@aconfusedazn That doesn't matter.Opel developed this car entirely. Every piece of this car has been engineered and developed by german engineers in a german factory called Opel, which is, and has been developing cars independently of GM ownership. Same as Jaguar today develops their cars on their own, even though Indian TATA owns them. So when american brand just puts a badge on a car that was not developed by them, and then claims its an american car...its just ridiculous.
derbigpr500 1 month ago
@derbigpr500 Opel became a majority-stake subsidiary of the American General Motors Corporation in 1929 and has been a wholly owned subsidiary since 1931. So, it is their own.
aconfusedazn 1 month ago
I don't see how Buick is not ashamed of themselves for putting their own badge on a car they didnt make and they claim that its their own.
derbigpr500 1 month ago