Title: The End of the Two-State Solution: Palestinians and Israelis Thinking the Unthinkable Speaker: Ali Abunimah Date: September 15, 2008 Location: Ford Auditorium
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@1991PatMan "Palestine" had a chance for the 1947 borders in 1947 and they refused. As did the surrounding Arab states, or all Arab states for that matter. In fact they chose to attack Israel, with the goal of not defeating the Jews, but destroying them and cleansing the land of them. And they lost, miserably. Sorry, but they abdicated any right of claim to those borders. In '67 and '73 the Israelis were similary threatened. Peace is not what the Arabs TRULY want. That is demonstrable.
No, sir. How can you be colonialists if you are returning to your own homeland. The same homeland that you were violently evicted from years before, and where Jews have maintained a presence throughout the millennia.
@1991PatMan And what he says at 34:16 about neither Isrealis or Palestinians putting forward maps that contain anything less than the whole country isnt true. All palestine wants is the arranged 1947 border. It has put this in peace proposals, that Isreal refuses.
His comparison of Ireland and Palestine is just completely misrepresented. The border of ROI and NI has stayed roughly the same since 1921. While in Palestine, Isreal simply kept expanding their borders through acts of war.
With the democracy movement in Egypt, Jordan, why don’t the 22 other
Arab countries accept some responsibility and carve up a state for the "Palestinians". How much lands do the Arabs need? HOW CAN THEY MAKE THE PALISTINIAN REFUGEES SUFFER AS PAWNS IN SQUALAR. WHY DONT THE OTHER 2 2 ARAB COUNTRIES ABSORB THEIR BROTHERS LIKE ISRAEL DID WITH THEIR ARAB-JEWS
two state=ulster Ireland India Pakistan one state is the only solution is a Palestinian state with the Jewish population living there with arrangements that would allow them ist class citizen ship--I suspect it would involve economic levelling, and arrangements that would not permit european Jews from becoming a ruling class. That is it would be a Palestinian state with "forced brotherhood" until ia civil society could emerge i.e. Israelis would be Arabized (are they "Jewish" now?)
@1991PatMan Wrong! You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The acts of aggression/war were from the Arabs.
bman342a 2 days ago
@1991PatMan "Palestine" had a chance for the 1947 borders in 1947 and they refused. As did the surrounding Arab states, or all Arab states for that matter. In fact they chose to attack Israel, with the goal of not defeating the Jews, but destroying them and cleansing the land of them. And they lost, miserably. Sorry, but they abdicated any right of claim to those borders. In '67 and '73 the Israelis were similary threatened. Peace is not what the Arabs TRULY want. That is demonstrable.
bman342a 2 days ago
No, sir. How can you be colonialists if you are returning to your own homeland. The same homeland that you were violently evicted from years before, and where Jews have maintained a presence throughout the millennia.
bman342a 2 days ago
@1991PatMan And what he says at 34:16 about neither Isrealis or Palestinians putting forward maps that contain anything less than the whole country isnt true. All palestine wants is the arranged 1947 border. It has put this in peace proposals, that Isreal refuses.
1991PatMan 4 months ago
His comparison of Ireland and Palestine is just completely misrepresented. The border of ROI and NI has stayed roughly the same since 1921. While in Palestine, Isreal simply kept expanding their borders through acts of war.
1991PatMan 4 months ago
Partition in Northern Ireland...has worked. It took 30 years. But it works.
1991PatMan 4 months ago
@rockynanach Ridiculous.. Palestinians have the right to live in historical Palestine. No body accepts theft and nobody accepts racist regimes.
dailymotico 7 months ago
@rockynanach yawwwnnn
dailymotico 7 months ago
Jordan is Palestine
watch?v=yIy0JLUmarg
With the democracy movement in Egypt, Jordan, why don’t the 22 other
Arab countries accept some responsibility and carve up a state for the "Palestinians". How much lands do the Arabs need? HOW CAN THEY MAKE THE PALISTINIAN REFUGEES SUFFER AS PAWNS IN SQUALAR. WHY DONT THE OTHER 2 2 ARAB COUNTRIES ABSORB THEIR BROTHERS LIKE ISRAEL DID WITH THEIR ARAB-JEWS
rockynanach 1 year ago
two state=ulster Ireland India Pakistan one state is the only solution is a Palestinian state with the Jewish population living there with arrangements that would allow them ist class citizen ship--I suspect it would involve economic levelling, and arrangements that would not permit european Jews from becoming a ruling class. That is it would be a Palestinian state with "forced brotherhood" until ia civil society could emerge i.e. Israelis would be Arabized (are they "Jewish" now?)
vivascargill 1 year ago