True News 28: A Statist Intervention - Low Res

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• statism
• libertarianism
• ron
• paul
• politics
• government

[SandwichPirate]

Are you a minarchist or an anarchist?

[stefbot]

I am a philosopher, and therefore an anarchist... :)

[SandwichPirate]

I don't understand. Are you saying that those who are analytical reason their way to anarchism by default?

Also, isn't libertarianism minarchy and not anarchy? I remember you talked about Ron Paul a lot, and 'libertarianism' is in the description.

[stefbot]

I believe that the only logically and morally consistent position is anarchy, and that is under the umbrella of libertarianism often... Check out my free audiobooks on anarchy if you like... :)

[lpszOxFFFF]

belief is nice, doesn't really substitute for evidence.

[stefbot]

Quite true, which is why I suggested the books.

[lpszOxFFFF]

I would be happy to share links but the youtubes don't really allow the dissemination of links in comments ;)

do a google search on site:census . gov "The Development of the Orshansky Poverty Thresholds "

census . gov / prod / 2006pubs / p60-231 . pdf

irp . wisc . edu / publications / focus / pdfs / foc113a . pdf

These r examples of primary and secondary sources, or what we colloquially call "evidence" in books and such

[szatmar666]

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background),a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid" D.Eisenhower

[andrewimeson]

Beyond the basic fact that the state is violence, you don't need historical data in order to prove that the state is immoral - it's irrelevant.

[hagbard72]

We're in Canada Stef, why do u always refer to America?

[kevinz1985]

excellent.

Thank you.

[twentyonepyramids]

Greenspan as a libertarian in the 60's advocated a gold standard as the only moral or workable monetary system. if he is so consistent, why hasn't he advocated a return to one at any point in his career as fed chairman, or now?

[crapalator]

I had one question to my friends coworkers and family today What is being talked about at the G20 meeting today in London no one could answer it so we hire these people to run our planet and we have no idea what the f#@k their doing the emotions from most amaze me cmoleon his comment says it all

[asdf545454096]

oh, just get a grip!

[cmoleon]

it is always interesting to see people first stumble from the ivory tower of academia, trying to dissimulate their shock as it dawns on them that there is a universe out there they had no idea even existed; that might be so vastly more real than their previous world of perpetual pedantery, pointless diversion and circular cross-referencing which they've learned at such great pains to substitute for thinking.

[DCLugi]

I see what you mean. From what I gather his books probably explain why he "believes" anarchy is the logical choice. I haven't read all of them so I'm not a credible source on that. The one thing that does click for me is the non aggression principle and as soon as you stand by that there's no logical way of accepting government even if I had no access to any historical facts.

[lpszOxFFFF]

No, what I meant was that this particular claim I asked him about is unsubstantiated, ie. it's not sourced and his reply to refer me to some random "books" with no specific page or bibliographical reference, not even a title means it remains an unsubstantiated claim, that's what I meant.

BTW Robert Rector is a respected conservative authority on the subject & his arguments r fairly well sourced, sometimes it takes more than 20 mins of googling to devastate'em, but at least it's a challenge.

[DCLugi]

I wasn't aware that Stef's books were unsubstantiated claims of a random nature. I assumed that he wrote about something he was educated in and spent time with. Which is why we should never assume I guess. I'll have to check them out as well.