WELS AND HOLY SUPPER

The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod does not teach the doctrines of Martin Luter.

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[rachmaninovpc3dminor]

May the Good Lord forgive you for twisting the words of both the WELS and Martin Luther, and moreso, for taking upon the "front:" that you are either fully and sufficiently trained or called by Christians to preach over the Internet. May God have mercy on your blasphemous soul.

[jorgeangelmijangos]

I don´t twist the words of Luther. Please read the words of Luther in the Cathecism about the Holy supper and the position of the WELS. VBesides, Is a blasphemy share the word of God? Is a blasphemy to invite to all christians read Luther when he simply taught the Word? Do you think God is angered with someone simply teaches His word?

May the Good Lord give you the strenght to read Luther. You will realize that´s not blasphemy.

Rev. Mijangos

[SaxymanMLC]

Can you tell me the rest of your teachings? I would like to know what you believe?

[jorgeangelmijangos]

The rest of our teachings are in the Book of Concord. You can find them there. If you send a mail to me I could send back to you a summary of our beliefs. Some of them openly are little different from the ones confessed for WELS but match with the Book of Concord. Besides we are so conservative.

May the light of Jesus be with you.

Rev. Mijangos

[SaxymanMLC]

I have always been taught in my religion classes that the body an blood are always there with the bread and wine. We know that it doesn't matter whether or not someone believes it. It is for this very reason we practice closed communion. Our Lord tells us through Paul that anyone who does not believe this eats and drinks to his own destruction.

[jorgeangelmijangos]

Yeap, we agree on that. Nevertheless we must insist the unio sacramentalis is verified at the very moment the WORDS are stated on the altar. That´s the point the WELS has forsaken. That´s the itsy bitsy detail...

[xpdnc12]

I'll also put it to you this way, why do priests turn around and raise the cup as if it were an offering to God? Communion is God's offering to us.

[MrWelsluth]

Well that is true the body and blood are present even if the person doesn't believe. That is exactly why the WELS has closed communion.

If you partake of that body and blood without believing you eat and drink judgement on yourself. That is biblical, so even if Luther would have said otherwise it doesn't matter because the bible trumps the confessions (which are also true because they argue for the bibles positions.

[tercermundistaa]

Hi, you talk the English Like SHIT!!!

Pinche paisa de mierda

[dragonking700]

the bible says that if an unbeliever takes the lord's supper, he eats and drinks judgement upon himself.

[turtle12383]

@rachmaninovpc3dminor You better do some research. We believe that it IS HIS Body and His Blood. The Words of Christ. You Must believe.

[Massielistika]

With all respect, probably what you are trying to do is to reach out more people to listen to your words, by trying to speak in English, but seriously you should work on that.... just as a piece of advice , talk in your own language if you don't know English ... or maybe you should ask God for the Gift of tongues so someone could understand what you say...

[xpdnc12]

karpov, Peter did not get the keys. What about the other disciples in the room, and what is described in Acts? And Paul? That phrase you claim about Peter being given the keys is a play on words by Jesus, and nothing more: Peter= Petre= rock. Look at the text and see the combination of "foundation" and "rock".

[karpov89]

Well not being episcopal retaining the Apostolic Succession, having no bishops, priests and deacons is not traditional Lutheran. There is indeed another priesthood than the priesthood of all believers.

[karpov89]

But St. Peter was indeed given the keys to heaven. The apostolic succession does not only come from him but from the other Apostles.

[JamesK123]

I've always had issues with so much influence being put on Martin Luther. Its almost like its the WELS version of the Book of Mormon. Its as if they are saying, "Without it, you can't fully understand the Bible!" I'd much rather just read the Bible and learn from the Word of God!

[senoreric]

Who is this moron? I belong to WELS and attended it's clergy-training schools. WELS does NOT teach that the presence of Christ is only because of the belief of the individual communicant. And just what "many other teachings" do we have that are not Lutheran? What a jerk!