Elizabeth Warren's Road to Serfdom

Elizabeth Warren has made a statement that the progressive Left has gone nuts over. So, right away, you can figure the statement is flawed. Looking at it, it is more obvious. Sorry for the low-quality---I'm going to re-upload it later.

Category:

People & Blogs

Tags:

• Moveon.org
• Warren
• Buffett
• Rule
• millionaire
• tax
• Elizabeth
• Warren's
• Road
• to
• Serfdom
• Educatorium
• Euphorium

[martydrooo]

If you haven't aleady, read "colossus: how the corporation changed america".

All of these services Warren talks about "we" paying for were initially bankrolled exclusively by the "factory owners", ie the new england textile entrepreneurs.

And, in present day, those services are bankrolled by taxes paid by the wealthy and the corporations. The middle class chips in, FROM WAGES PAID BY CORPS. And considering only 53% of adults in the US pay taxes, it just further proves the point.

[EducatoriumEuphorium]

@martydrooo

Progressives always seem to be deliberately vague when they talk about tax policy. They call out for "fairness" and "equality" but how is our current progressive tax system "fair" or "equal" in any way?

[georgeohants]

10 people??? $100? Are you nuts. Are you implying that every person born on this planet had the same benefits as you had? Go to bronx and talk to one of the homeless kids out there and see in what conditions they were raised in so you can get an idea how equal of opportunity they got. You are young and dumb. You wouldnt survive in the real world by your self for a min.

[EducatoriumEuphorium]

@georgeohants

I'm not implying that at all. My point was that even if everyone was given an equal amount of resources, over time inequalities would develop. Ronald Dworkin even admitted this. $100 dollars and 10 people were arbitrary numbers just made to illustrate that point. I wasn't talking about homelessness but about roads which  Elizabeth Warren was talking about. Everyone can use the roads and schools (of course, there are exceptions but that's a different story). Thanks for commenting.

[martydrooo]

@EducatoriumEuphorium The funny thing is throwing more money at the problem wouldn't solve it, anyway. You could make taxes 50% and it won't solve this country's fundamental problems. I remember it was quoted in the 60s that every problem in new york could be solved if the budget was twice as big, and 10 years later it was 3x as big with even more problems. Also, they want taxes when you make money, but when you lose money, does the govt help you out? Nope, they don't want to know you.

[AlephNeil]

You seem to be arguing with a fictional Elizabeth Warren. The real version doesn't deny that there is natural inequality among people. She doesn't assert that everyone should receive the same wealth. So your "ten pioneers with $100 each" scenario is completely irrelevant. She certainly doesn't try to demonise the rich as in your fiction.

When she says "the rest of us" that doesn't mean "only the proletariat", it means "the rest of us". She's not talking about classes, you are.