Uploaded by horsesinnyc on Nov 24, 2008
Support the Ban on NYC Carriage Horses and end the cruelty
Please attend the City Council Consumer Affairs Committees public hearing on Councilman Avella's two bill concerning carriage horses, and consider providing two minutes worth of testimony in support of this humane legislation. The meeting is scheduled to take place on Friday, January 30, 2009, at 10:00 a.m. on the 2nd floor of City Hall
o animal - domestic or wild can have its' natural instincts and genetics wiped out no matter how hard humans try to do so for their own greed and appetite. Cows and horses and all other animals do not thrive when their basic needs and instincts are denied.
This is why there have been 21 NYC horse carriage accidents that we know of in the last 10 years. The horses were spooked and took flight into traffic. LAIM THERE IS NO EXTREMIST AGENDA, ONLY VERIFIABLE FACTS. Another convenient tactic used by the carriage industry and their supporters is to say that only a fringe group of activists and 1 NY councilman want the industry banned in NYC. LISTEN UP! THE ASPCA, which volunteers to oversee the industry with their admitted inadequate resources, supports a ban. The ASPCA states that THE INDUSTRY IS INHUMANE, and NYC CANNOT BE CHANGED TO MAKE IT HUMANE AND SAFE! In addition to Peta, the Humane Society and ASPCA, numerous other equine welfare groups support a ban.
The industry is always coming up with clever spin that is always devoid of fact. No thinking equine expert would call working in Times Square, walking up and down 9th Avenue from their stalls in warehouses through the severely congested traffic a humane experience for horses (prey flight animals). The horses are slammed between buses and cars with honking horns, exhaust fumes, and total chaos. This is not normal and fair to any animal even if one tries to rationalize that they are used to it. No feeling creature gets used to abuse. To add insult to injury they have NO turnout (area to walk freely, stretch, socialize as herd animals AKA horse play. They suffer joint problems from walking on concrete in the heat and cold (high humidity and chill factors are not factored in for horses despite the real effect it has on them) where the temperature is much hotter and colder than the air temperature. They have inadequate stalls sizes which prevent many of the horses from fully stretching out to sleep well and the horse who are housed above the first floor of the warehouses have no direct escape to the ground should their be a fire. The list goes on and on so LIAM GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU ROMANTIZE THIS INDUSTRY. As far as the industry losing approximately 400 jobs, oh please, this is life. We all must take responsibility for staying skilled and ready to evolve as industries evolve. They are not owed welfare just as other workers must take responsibility to stay talented, skilled and ready for new employment needs/trends. Health care, manufacturing, and IT employees just to mention a few- have all had to retool.
Listening to the industry and their supporters (celebrity or not) is like listening to the tobacco industry explain why smoking is safe while ignoring the American Medical Associations expert opinions.
AS WE EMBARK ON POSITIVE CHANGE AS A COUNTRY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A NEW COMPASSIONATE AND SAFE "TRADITION"!
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@horsesinnyc Equus has suffered greatly at the hands of man. We are totally unworth of their majesty. Its like keeping killer whales in tanks to "splash" the fat tourists. Disgusting.
VajinalBloodFart 11 months ago
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they're animals that"s all. i'd rather just kill em all so we can focus on the children, hell all humans, who are abused or destitute
Abent5866 11 months ago
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guys, banning this will kill them
with no job to do theyll be shipped to japan or whereever hell awaits hem and be slaughtered.....
they need this job, and though its not the best environment for a horse to live its good enough for them to be fit and healthy!
id rather be a horse working here than awaiting in death row in mexico or japan or wherever they will go to die!!!
BreyerBud 1 year ago
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Why don't you do something really productive with your time? Like expose PETA, who wants all domestic animals done away with!! This may not be the ideal environment for a horse, but they all look healthy and well fed, no limping and no drooping heads. Get over yourself and expose something like hungry kids in the USA and let us know how to FIX it.
natedawg722 1 year ago
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HA end cruelty? What a joke... by banning these horses from their job and purpose they will be homeless and ultimately SLAUGHTERED. Use your head IDIOTS. There aren't enough homes to go around as it is... at least they get fed and watered and their hooves maintained. I RESCUE horses and these horses are serving a purpose. Sure it's not the ideal life but they aren't dead. Maybe instead of complaining... BUY THEM and give them the home YOU feel they should have. Be part of the solution!
m3lissacoleman 1 year ago
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god that gave me a headache!! hold the camera still !!!!!!!!!!! or do not film !
binoyrakesh 2 years ago
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new york shit
icnclt 2 years ago
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Wth! This is disgusting. If I ever visit NY, I would NEVER, ever go on a horse carriage just to do some sightseeing around the place. The carriage drivers and the people who like to ride in them because they think it is "romantic", etc should be ashamed of themselves.
MinaOhara 1 year ago
@MinaOhara , thank you for your compassion and not supporthing this cruelty.
horsesinnyc 1 year ago
If you guys want to see what REAL horse abuse is, try going to this site: watch?v=VFMVGMdhHV8&feature=fvw - those are the horses that need your help! As a devoted horse lover, I'd rather see all horses pulling carriages in NYC, than to see what's done to them elsewhere! This isn't horse abuse, not by a long shot! Maybe not perfect or ideal, but certainly not abuse! Focus your energy on real horse abuse, not this.. please.. for the horse's sake, seek out the real abusers!
EnglishOnly1 2 years ago
That is abuse and so is this. To say this isn't abuse because they are other forms of abuses that exist doesn't justify this cruelty in NYC. There is no excuse for any cruelty as this carriage industry in NYC and as the video that you posted.
horsesinnyc 2 years ago
I don't get it, are we supposed to think this is somehow cruel? Ban the cars.
blackerthanblackdog 3 years ago
It is cruel to have horses double park and in heavy traffic hauling tourists. they don't have a natural life. Why must be force horses to live in inhumane conditions for the sole purposes of hauling tourists. Tourists have other means to view the city.
horsesinnyc 3 years ago