Blessed Mary, Mother of the Church, Mother of Christ and Mother of God

Just how important is Mary to many Catholics? Mary and Elizabeth are wonderful heroines in Luke's account. He loves the faith of these women. The thing that impresses him most, it appears, is the lowliness and cheerful humility of Elizabeth and Mary. Elizabeth says (1:43): "And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord would come to me? And Mary says (1:48): The Lord has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden." The only people whose soul can truly magnify the Lord are people like Elizabeth and Mary--people who acknowledge their lowly estate and are overwhelmed by the condescension of the magnificent God.
From: Lutheran Church Doctrine of Beliefs, LCMS. The first Protestants "never objected to denoting the Virgin Mary as the "Mother of God" (theotokos, "God-bearer"), since she was the mother of Jesus and Jesus was and is indeed God. Since the Son of God was and is sinless, it is evident that some miraculous "exception" was made in the conception of Jesus through Mary that prevented original sin from tainting the Christ-child."
Although the first Protestants again reaffirmed the Apostolic Christian position that Mary had no other Children, and the 'Brothers' of our Lord were either cousins or children of Joseph from another marriage. It was not until the post-reformational era that these ideas surfaced. Again, as Sola Scriptura allows, modern Protestants reject not only Apostolic Christianity but also the ideas of their own reformers.

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[jayandersons]

I did anwer your question 3 times, you havent answer any... how can you run this video after reading matt 12:55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? 56 And his sisters, are they not all with us?

[stevesilvia]

@jayandersons the reason you can not answer with a yes or no is because you do not know the answer....

[832existentialiste]

@jayandersons

Those are sons of another Mary, particularly Mary that is James and Joseph’s mother (Mt 27.56) who can’t be identified with Mary, Jesus’ mother. And yes, understand the implications of word usage in the Semitic world like the locution ‘before or until’ (Mt 1.25) which is not definitive concerning the future, 2 Sam 6.23, ‘Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child [until] the day of her death.'

[ed2funny4]

@jayandersons Nowhere in the Bible does it explicitly say that the Virgin Mary bore or had any other child but Jesus. Neither do the verses you referenced say so. First, understand that the word "brothers" in Aramaic and Hebrew did not only imply full or half brothers but even cousins or other distant relations within the same generation (the same for sister). Also: In (Mark 6:3) Jesus was called “the son of Mary” not “a son of Mary.”

[farsight001]

@jayandersons That question has been answered for you. How can you repeatedly make this argument after having it been proven inadequate multiple times? And still refusing to give a flat out yes or no answer to the yes or no question "is Jesus God?" Responding with scripture quotes, believe it or not, doesn't actually answer the question. In the psych world, we call it a classic divert.

[farsight001]

@jayandersons Or the millions of Catholics Hitler killed too, most of them the polish you speak of.  The Church never put a death sentence on ML. You are simply making stuff up.

[farsight001]

@jayandersons He was burned alive by PROTESTANT Henry VIII, fyi. And his bible had no influence on the KJV. It's NT was translated from the textus receptus, borrowing copiously from the Douay Reihms to fill in the holes do to the poor physical condition of the text. The OT borrowed heavily from various other translations.

[832existentialiste]

@baldonebear

'Adelphos'. How apt. Yes, Mark did not use anexios w/c can be found only once in the NT. In spite of that, in the Semitic world most esp. that of Aramaic and Hebrew there were no different terms when referring to a full brother or a cousin. And since the tradition’s origin assumed by Mark has an underlying Semitic b/g in that the scene is set in Nazareth then it is safe to suspect that he followed the usage common during those times.

Mary Ever-Virgin bless you!

[baldonebear]

@jayandersons

Part 4

A Question we read in John 19:

26 "When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home"

IF Jesus had blood brothers, why would they allow this to happen?

[baldonebear]

@jayandersons

Part 3

Additional texts;

Matthew 27:56

"among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee’s sons."

Mark 15:40

"There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joses, and Salome"

Each gospel writer differs in detail.

Never is an individual called the son/daughter of Joseph/Mary. Yet that is a standard seen in scripture.

[baldonebear]

@jayandersons

Part 2

John 19:25 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene."

Mary Clopas is called her sister. Now does that mean her parents named 2 daughters Mary? No. Thus, the historical critique reveals that she was the Sister of Joseph.

[baldonebear]

@jayandersons

Hello.

Adelphos was a word used to describe brothers, cousins, countryman, and Christians.

They were his cousins. They would be the children of Mary Clopas.

[stevesilvia]

@jayandersons I am going to answer my question to you, since you are unwilling to answer it yourself with a sense of commitment to Christ. Jesus is God, John 10:30 I and the Father are one." If Jesus is God, and Mary His mother, we respectfully call her mother of God. Now if Jesus had brothers, why at the crucifixion scene, did Jesus give Mary over to John to care for her?