Egyptian Cleric "Jews The Day of Vengeance Is Nearing" 2009

Egyptian Cleric Hazem Shuman's Message for Every Jew on the Face of the Earth The Day of Vengeance Is Nearing

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[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 I do not subscribe the idea that Islamic history is one of progress. If Muslims were so advanced and Christians were living in the "dark ages", why couldn't Muslims recreate their glory in their own lands?

If Christendom was stuck in a dark age, explain the Great Cathedrals built during this time.

[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 Matters don't improve because of time. History must be informed by moral precepts which value individual freedoms. That eliminates all totalitarian doctrines, including Islam. You confuse religious with scriptural. There is nothing in the Gospel which condones slavery, violence, or oppression. However, Islam condones all those things. Islam & Christendom is faulty parallelism. The Caliphate and Christendom or Islam and Christianity would be correct.

[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 Mohamed fashioned the Koran, albeit in a poor way, on the Holy Bible, so it would be better than the pagan beliefs in some ways. Good point.

[P1B1U1H1]

@RockStudioLive One small point. Once you realize that matters improve & that this evidences the existence of Almighty God, the study of Christian & Islamic religious history becomes quite fun; Jewish religious history bores because it had zero historical impact. Have a gander at religious justifications that eventuated into government policy justifying long distance slavery. The slenderest of reeds became the sturdiest defenses in both Islam & Christendom.

[P1B1U1H1]

@RockStudioLive My worry is precisely that it is backsliding; some Imams now proclaim slavery of value! Islam can be interpreted like most other religions, with the divine assurance that improvements in moral understandings occur. Jews & Christians, who do not find the Qu'ran an improvement on the bible,must agree it was a vast improvement over extant moral systems, which included child sacrifice to idols!

[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 Interesting point. When individual human rights become devalued, society definitely back slides. We'll see if the Islamic wave sweeping the Arab countries continues to become more liberal in their understanding of human rights.

[P1B1U1H1]

@RockStudioLive Slavery is legally forbidden in all Islamic countries, although some want to return to the monstrosity. Stoning occurs in only a minority of Islamic countries, whereas it used to be present everywhere Islam was. Eventually, moral advances become thought to be good things by almost all societies that consider them. One can of course go backwards, Pol Pot, Hitler, etc., prove that beyond doubt. In general, however, moral progress accrues with experience. That's how God works.

[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 Not all society. How has Islam changed in 1400 years?

[P1B1U1H1]

@RockStudioLive Human society improves morally over time (e.g., Exod 20:17 v. Deut 5:21); the divine is beyond human comprehension. Not intended to be posited were multiple NT versions; my post should have said TRANSLATIONS. NIV says "The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53--8:11."

[RockStudioLive]

@P1B1U1H1 There are not several versions of the NT there are many translations but the original scripture has not changed. Good for you that God the unchanging reveals Himself to you as changeable.

Can you name the several versions of the NT?