NARTH Convention and Training Institute - 2008

Dr. Russell is a member of the APA's task force charged with revisiting guidelines for treating gay and lesbian clients, which makes her an expert in her field and highly qualified to speak on the subject of reparative therapy. Dr. Russell points out that every mental health and medical organization has rejected ex-gay / reparative therapy because being gay or lesbian is not a mental illness thus not something that can or should be "cured." Furthermore she states the body of professional literature and research on sexual orientation indicates ex-gay therapy is ineffective and harmful.

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[risingup]

Doctor (?) Shumacher, perhaps you are unaware that males who prey on children are almost always heterosexual? Dr. Bruce Rind is not a "homosexual activist." There is a huge difference between pedophilia (again, almost exclusively a heterosexual male problem) and two consenting adults loving each other. Huge.

[nothing1967]

There is a difference between being consenting gay *ADULTS* and being fucked up (i.e. pederasty/pedophilia)!

[loveless3138]

@TheDragonlady08 You cannot change something innate and you are born with. That's like trying to change your brain structure through therapy.

[GodCreatesGays2]

TDL08, of course, even pretending that "change" is possible or necessary is deceitful and dangerous. No intelligent, moral person would advocate it. Homosexuality is an innate component of a human being, as bestowed upon him by God, and cannot be changed or denied. Saying a gay person needs to "change" is like saying a black man or a Latina woman is abhorrent to the Lord, and needs to change to find His favor. Could YOU change who you are because uneducated bigots condemned you? Think about it.

[TheDragonlady08]

Let those who want to have therapy have it! Let those who want to CHANGE do it. These doctors want to keep people in the dungeon forever. Don't they say that people have the right to chose. To say that this therapy do not work is a desperate attempt to shout down the voices that say that CHANGE IS POSSIBLE when people want it.

[funk7000]

@molimhvalaizvoli check your inbox

[molimhvalaizvoli]

@funk7000 - the rise of new diagnosis is really ridiculous, and the drugg industry, pharmacetic lobby etc. btw-are you a psychologist? i study psy btw

[funk7000]

@molimhvalaizvoli Well, the APA is complete rooted in politics and business rather than scientific objectivity. They normalize REAL disorders and make up disorders like the new one coming up called "Healthy Eating Disorder." Yes, they are going to say that ppl who eat free ranch farm and organic foods all the time have a mental illness so they can push more pharm pills on ppl, and also help out the big "chicken death camp" agricultural industry. Big govt needs to end

[molimhvalaizvoli]

@funk7000 - yep, you got that right! i read your aother comments and must say i completely agree with you!

[Xtro2005]

@fireflygirl246 I made no such moral conflation. I was comparing situational sexual behavior retention between cases where the behavior is assume to be innate and another where it is not. I fail to understand how, other than by rank emotionalism you, concluded I was making a moral analysis. Perhaps you should take the time to consider this overreaction.

[fireflygirl246]

@Xtro2005 this will be my last resonance.

You low life piece of scum, How dare you compare my mature adult relationship with my same sex partner as anything the same pedophilia. Pedophilia if you ever bother to look stuff up is about having power over the kids its not the same as adult romantic attractions, hetero or homo, homosexuality is not a decease, its just verity in the human species. Pedophilia is classified as a mental decease that hurts the pedophile as much as his(or her) victims.

[Xtro2005]

@fireflygirl246 I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility of hormonal influence but I think the findings regarding twins done by Bailey & Pillard et al and peer review by Byne & Parson, Hubbard & Wald, etc were pretty damning of such a position

Personally, I take the "not a choice" position as an attempt at strawmaning the opposition. Only the religious are arguing its a choice. I doubt for example, pedophiles choose to be attracted to children. They also are nearly impossible to treat.