SA@Takimag - Is Secession Crazy?

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Secession is merely the removal of consent.

One military defeat by the forces of big government (regardless of how brutal or oppressive those forces behave towards civilians) does not eliminate in perpetuity the right to self-determination.

It took four, count 'em...FOUR, wars for secession by Portugal before they finally won their independence from Spain.

Please read me the part of the Constitution that states that secession is not legal. And as far as Texas vs. White..if the Supreme Court declared Secession not legal then, they still didnt put it into the Constitution because its still not there.

The Supreme Court does not and cannot add things to the Constitution. There's an amendment process for that. And there's no need to add a prohibition on unpermitted secession---that is, was, and always has been unconstitutional. If folks think the Supreme Court got it wrong and secession should be constitutional, they've had 150 years to pursue a constitutional amendment.

How's that effort going? Yeah.

No, violating the Constitution and firing on American troops has never been legal under U.S. law. It's a real good way to get your ass kicked, though.

Where in the Constitution does it say it's not legal?

Ass kicked? More lack of pure motive.

Generally, shooting at Americans will get you killed.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Read Lincoln's first inaugural or Texas v. White. It's all in there. Secession is, was and always has been unconstitutional, and Lincoln swore a duty to uphold and defend the Constitution. That's it. If your state secedes tomorrow, declares the "cornerstone" of its new nation slavery and the genetic inferiority of your race, and starts shooting at American troops, We the People stomp that ass. We're one nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for ALL. Traitors are free to leave.

How can it "all possibly be just "in there"? There's a lot of "there" there.
The AUTHOR of the Constitution, Tom Jefferson in his inaugaral address stated "If there be any among us who wish to dissolve the union or to change it's republican form let them stand undisturbed."

Abe Lincoln also said on the House floor in 1848 "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power,Have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may chose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revoloutionize, and make their own, of so much of the territory as they inhabit." Where in the constitution is secession illegal?

Why would any seceding state declare slavery as a cornerstone? Then they'd be no better than Africa.
Genetic inferiority of my race? What's my race? Did you just make a racist comment?
why do you expect people to start shooting at American troops? Is this some kind of sick fantasy you dream about at night?
"Stomp that ass". More misdirected attempts at threats of violence, silly to do on the Internet, but then again, you are being a very silly person.

So, I take it you truly don't believe in state's rights?
But it's O.K. if the former Soviet UNION does it, we applauded when THAT happened saying it was a victory for state's rights, yet we shouldn't let our own have the opportunity?
Seems a bit hypocritical, don'tcha think?