Jacque Fresco-Problems of Values-May 3, 2011

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[matleyz]

I wish Mr. Fresco would take a neutral position on who did 9/11. It's a touchy and divisive subject and there isn't likely to be consensus any time soon.

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@matleyz i can't see him ever take a neutral position on anything just to quell disagreements. quite the opposite really, he isn't concerned with a consensus.

[teewilson333]

@thevenusprojectmedia I want to personally thank Jacque for the years of hard work he put into his disciplines and insight's. I still have many values to undo and much to learn as i am highly uneducated but Jacque has vastly improved my life. Even those i speak to seem to adopt similar values and it has improved there life's although much slower. Ive literally caused a ripple affect in those i associate with.

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@teewilson333 always nice to hear when people get through with this to others, that is rarely the norm. will pass this along to him

[desredmon]

So I may be a bit confused but the video seems to say:

Ignore the past, ignore the stated threat

Accept and do not resist attacks

Because to resist attack or god forbid promote a more enlightened value system would condemn that value system...

And any value system that contains a punishment system is intrinsically bad?

If a man robs a store you are at with your grandchildren you should be ok with the man raping and killing your grandchildren. My value system would have me defend mine.

[thevenusprojectmedia]

@desredmon well stated, because few seem to look at things from the point of view that it is one's own 'value system' in appraising a situation. But i think you misunderstand key points. It isn't to ignore the past or a threat-it's HOW we respond that will determine if we attain a short term personal gain, or a long term improvement in society. Jacque speaks about punitive methods as insufficient in dealing with the causes. We should ask what CONDITIONS made the 'crime' ?

[bjl34565]

"War is the maximum expression of ignorance"

- Jacque Fresco

[blankprobe]

@bjl34565 hear hear

[ArcologyDesigns]

@desredmon I believe what he's saying is that, in the long term, the best way to protect your self from attacks is to ensure the source of the attack is no longer there. That is not accomplished by killing any one man in particular but by completely altering the system which produced him altogether. Meaning if you somehow change the language, religion, and culture of your enemies so they're more like you, they have less reason to hate you because they're similar now and less Osamas will arise

[reevolutionable]

The only real laws that exist are one that can't be broken.

[jaycr2006]

@MasAppealTheGreat That's a great question. In order to change the system of values we need to control the growth of the population and assign the necessary resources and time for the new generations to acquire these values. I believe that if we want to survive as species, we need to place a tight restriction on the who can give birth to a child and who can raise and educate that child. That's the only way to change the system of values.

[jaycr2006]

@matleyz 911 was about politics and economic interests in the Middle East. The United States neeeded a reason to invade that region and terrorism became the perfect excuse. I don't trust the US authorities, they work for a handful of corporations, not in the best interests of the people of the US.