Narcissism Disease of Self Hate, not Love (Reality TV Grp Th ses. 4 w/ Dr. Jane Goldberg)

Jane starts with a good definition of narcissism as a disease not of self love but self hate as in the myth of Narcissus he became so infatuated with himself he died. Regan at 15:30 describes her experience of the group negativity but gets cut off (remember Jane said she needed to develop a "voice") and by 17:00 she lashes back with vim until Kay feels badly and expresses it @ 18:15 Regan seems spot on about Andres
19:00 Jane gives a good description of therapeutic talk vs talk that is negative (Regan's fear) and how to distinguish the two. 22:30 Jane gives a personal story and uses it to show that Lana is very engaged with Barbara. Andres continues to hold back 23:50 but trys to get in better w/ Regan ("See I talk & you are great too") Jane talks about her need for control over the group but wants people to take the power 26:00 and that Barbara is told to cooperate in a way that Barbara can process.

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[cybermone]

seems very immature, lots of judgements ..x means y.......... based on tonalities, facial expressions, body, gestures and other cues, with what seems little conscious awareness that they are responding non-verbally to each other.

[KhagarBalugrak]

Narcissists are in love with themselves. They don't hate themselves, not usually anyway. The problem is that they love themselves exclusively, usually at the expense of others, not that they hate themselves. The emptiness they suffer from is a spiritual punishment from God, not something that is intrinsic to being completely selfish.

[Ezekiel199]

dumb. not helpful.

[PollockQT]

Is this Jerry Springer? This is a mockery of Psychology...

[ipublica]

Thanks, Jane. I agree.

[rabbitholecentral]

@mamaschristmasbunny

I would hope that after April 19th Jane herself once this experiment ends could answer some of what you put here. I would suggest getting a hold of Hyman Spotnitz's book "Modern Psychoanalysis and the Schizophrenic Patient

[mamaschristmasbunny]

@paulagloria I just feel there from my feelings and mock rehearsal of this in my mind. The group promotes a conscious sub-conscious push to hold pattern in a negative control. Meaning: the negativity in itself is being controlled and passed as positive. If' indeed that is a psych-analysis group? Why should negativity of Barbara be an issue; when that is the premise the group holds under?

Jane contradicts herself. Telling Barbara it is not a support group, but a psych analysis.

Just my view.

[mamaschristmasbunny]

@paulagloria , Don't take me seriously wrong. But I was putting myself in that group while watching this. To me' groups of people: no matter how different groups are; groups of people are hard to change in their natural pretense to withhold.

For me' groups like that in general would never work. I feel for Barbara oddly enough. Being she seems very involved in her own life. Where I get the feeling of real passive aggressiveness is being promoted even by Jane in that setting of talking.

[paulagloria]

Jane starts with a good definition of narcissism as a disease not of self love but self hate as in the myth of Narcissus he became so infatuated with himself he died. Regan at 15:30 describes her experience of the group negativity but gets cut off (remember Jane said she needed to develop a "voice") and by 17:00 she lashes back with vim until Kay feels badly and expresses it @ 18:15 Regan seems spot on about Andres

[paulagloria]

19:00 Jane gives a good description of therapeutic talk vs talk that is negative (Regan's fear) and how to distinguish the two. 22:30 Jane gives a personal story and uses it to show that Lana is very engaged with Barbara. Andres continues to hold back 23:50 but trys to get in better w/ Regan ("See I talk & you are great too") Jane talks about her need for control over the group but wants people to take the power 26:00 and that Barbara is told to cooperate in a way that Barbara can process.