Stefan Molyneux on "Is TVP/TZM a cult?"

Before my interview with Stefan Molyneux he offered his feedback on how ridiculous he felt it was that TZM and TVP was being called a cult. He agreed to address his feelings on the matter on the air.

Category:

Nonprofits & Activism

Tags:

• Venus Project
• Zeitgeist
• Cult

[hagbard72]

He is running a cult. Go hangout at his chat network, and ask some critical questions. See what happens. I once totally believed in this guy and laughed the 'cult' label but this guy fits it.

[therhythmicmenace]

What about there winged monkeys flagging videos that simply disagree with them, sounds cultish to me, and there plan does sound like a hideous control mechanism.

[milpool21]

I have watched a lot of stefbot's videos, I can see no evidence of a cult. Unless you want to say thinking for yourself and offering advice on very important topics, that the main stream won't even touch, is a cult.

[FreeMeFromG]

Wow, that was big of this fellow to step out and speak on Zeit and Venus as not being a cult. Even though the title would have you believe otherwise, which is the only thing I can say about this video that is less than decent. Could have been titled, "TVP/TZM in not a cult" even so, I'm still impressed.

Well done sir. How very wonderfully human of you.

[nbm34]

@crazycatlady667 I fear your sigh may be substantiated as I have posted a responce as you requested as limitations on these frames are not good for serious debate. ZM / VP are not masquerading AS THE WILL OF ANYTHING. I have spent a long time in study on this movement. They are what they are. A movement in orbit were people come to them by attraction of ITS SCIENCE. I have never seen or heard any point of reference that claims by them they represent the peoples WILL. THE PEOPLES EDUCATION yes

[crazycatlady667]

@nbm34 * (sigh) I know I'm probably going to regret this but... what makes you think that the Venus Project or Zeitgeist Movement is not just another one of those "terms" masquerading as the "will of the common people". It's a fair question. You can pm if you want if the character limitation is too restricting.

[nbm34]

@crazycatlady667 Hi I think we need to understand the mindset of the rulers past and present. On this matterDEMOCRACY, FREE ELECTIONS, HUMAN RIGHTS. Are patsy terminology, So if I am trying to think like you on this, NWO. This also is a PATSY way they use popular imagery to hide, behind the the way they actualy run the world. They try to present themselves as professionals and that they serve the common peoples will etc. For example PEOPLES TRIBUNES of Rome.These offices did not reps the peeps.

[crazycatlady667]

@nbm34 O.K., thanks for that... maybe "end game" was a poor choice of words or should have been in quotes. What I meant was that the term NWO is just a distraction for the "real intention". And by "real intention" I am referring to high ranking Banksters such as the IMF, the World Bank etc. etc. I did not mean to sound apocalyptic if that's what you thought. My question was mainly, do you think the NWO is a patsy term? Another step in the all too mentioned Hegelian Dialectic? :O

[nbm34]

@crazycatlady667 The NWO we know is already here on the Banksters terms, The IMF a world bank chip money and debt etc. There is no such thing asa END to anything. Human evolution seems slow at times,

but as we see in the industrial ages things change human experience and behaviour in historicaly short periods now due to technology etc. They have the world they think how they want it to be, But the consumer is dying and starved of funds to keep the system going. It is the beggining not the end,

[nbm34]

@valhala56 This is correct, the VP movement is not a cult, because it does not offer salvation in the religous

context. It is a matter or pure science. We know that machines could be upgraded to literaly to produce all human needs, in a infrastructure designed for such a purpose. This is nothing to do with religion it is a

enginerring product, to serve mankind which has never been feasable until this age.I also am at an age were there is no salvation for me. THIS IS FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN.