Atheist Book Report: Mere Christianity: ch 2

In this episode, C.S. Lewis tackles 2 very challenging weak-sauce objections to his assertion that there is a transcendental Moral Law. He gives us an interesting, but completely wrong metaphor about pianos, and seems to equate the physical New York City with the changing concept of the wrongness of slavery, antisemitism, and witch burning.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Mere
• Christianity
• Lewis
• atheism
• morality
• subjective
• moral
• law

[senseiern]

My attempt to interpret a water buffalo would be the equal of Michael Keaton translating Japanese in "Gung Ho". But because I do not know what the motivation, does not mean I cannot genuinely dismiss the idea of self-sacrifice. Maybe the lion called the buffalo a gnu.

[WineisyourFriend]

Respond to this video... And just like that you've said "I'm not interested in a real conversation. I just want to make fun of your shades and act like a prick online"

Fine. At one point you say I can't tell if an animal is risking its safely to save its young, then you postulate that the lion called the buffalo a gnu, and that's why it risked its life. If you're not interested in a real discussion, then I'm not interested in your comments,...troll.

[senseiern]

Hmmm. If you do not fear these people whom you called Christians, then you would not hide your identity.

As for society. Society is a creation of man. Never has a creation been greater than its creator. My adherence to societal rules, if I were not a believer, would be out of fear of the mob if I crossed them. It would not be a moral code, but a survival code, of which I would rebel where possible.

[WineisyourFriend]

@senseiern I clearly told you that I DO fear those assholes. Can you read?

And the "creation of society" is easily greater than any one individual man. No individual man can create a society. Are you even trying?

[senseiern]

As an example, you cannot tell the difference between "Ich liebe Dich" and "Ich hasse Dich" unless you understand German, or can use somethign that translates German for you. How much moreso would you not be able to understand a water buffalo unless you can communicate with it. So, please stop with using the animal kingdom as your justification of human action until you can understand the animal language.

[WineisyourFriend]

@senseiern What is your interpretation of the actions of those animals? Are they just trying to score some time on a reality show? What? If they aren't trying to rescue their young, at great risk to themselves, then what are they doing? What is your alternative hypothesis?

[jchristopher83]

people cant have different opinions about NY... Man is this guy the reason why every athiest is converting to believing in God? if I was an athiest this guy would make me wanna get baptized and drunk in the Holy Spirit and never do drugs or masterbate ever again

[senseiern]

Troll. Not hardly. I was merely attempting a joke to lighten the attitude. It is unfortunate that you are so irritated that you could not take time to laugh.

[senseiern]

Please tell me again why you wear glasses. One of the flaws of watching youtube on a blackberry is the limited comments access.

Man can live outside of society. It was easier when man's ability to patrol the entire earth was non-existent. But the point is, man is more authoritative over his own body than society is. And more to the point, society's rule are not a moral code.

[WineisyourFriend]

@senseiern Do you live in a society? Do you live among other people? Then yes..there IS a moral code you are beholden to. Try to go on a killing spree and see if there are no consequences. Seriously, I find your type to be very feeble minded. And what are you talking about "fear mongers who would take actions of violence..."? What are you referring to here? Christians? Really, you lost me there.

[WineisyourFriend]

@senseiern You're reaching here. We can, and frequently do, fully understand the motives and intentions..or at the very least, emotions of those we cannot verbally communicate with. The same is true of animals. We know when our pet dog is happy or sad. We know when they're scared or nervous. You gonna tell me that because I don't speak dachshund that I don't know if my dog is scared, hungry, happy, etc? Anyway, you can ignore the evidence if you like. It doesn't change the truth.