I've recently discovered Rheinberger's sonates and I found them perfect: plenty of powerful ideas, great architecture, and rich harmonic palette. I didn't know the 14th yet but I love this piece, too. I don't think he is copying from Mendelssohn at all. (just my opinion)
@allofyouduecebags SHUT UP. Music is music. Let it be. Personally, i am here for a project for class. I do not usually listen to things like this, although i play the violin. I usually listen to heavy metal or metalcore. Each person is entitled to their own opinion. Even though i dont listen to this kind of music, I do know how to appreciate hard work. Do any of you actually know how long it took him to write this? I dont think so. It is very hard to put together a piece of any kind.PEACE OUT
@MrBooker39 The fact that you think it is 'fine music' is YOUR problem. If you cannot discern the difference between this and Mendelssohn - or any of the true masters - than there is no point in having this interchange.
Sorry, old chap...I just listened to this movement again and, other than some similarities in harmonic vocabulary which one would expect, I HEAR no signs of Rheinberger making a cheap copy of the Mendelssohn. I think it's fine music and is beautifully played on a magnificent organ. Again, I'm grateful for the posting.
@MrBooker39 You might not SEE a resemblance, but do you HEAR one? Either way, any individual who doesn't hear/see that rhinoburger COPIED the Mendelssohn has no business commenting on anything having to do with music.
@oktav1970 Thanks for the history lesson. But what does anything you say have to do with my original comment? Do you not hear that rhinoberger is cheap imitation? He was good at writing 'models' pieces, although in a style that was already outdated. But don't believe a word I say - you will adhere to the notion that rhinoberger is actually a legitimate composer.
@organman52 Forget it. Toccatas at the end of an organ performance had been quite common for centuries; and the language of harmonies is already common on ~1800. Mendelssohn and Rheinberger are just part of bigger traditions: look at the French organists for example; in the second half of the century (during the time of Rheinberger), you'll find dozens of toccatas that are quite similar: in France, Germany, Austria and further.
Have you heard the Rheinberger Trio for violin, cello and organ? It's second tier Brahms - and that ain't bad.
wurlitzer3 9 months ago
I've recently discovered Rheinberger's sonates and I found them perfect: plenty of powerful ideas, great architecture, and rich harmonic palette. I didn't know the 14th yet but I love this piece, too. I don't think he is copying from Mendelssohn at all. (just my opinion)
TheSuperCaiman 11 months ago
@allofyouduecebags SHUT UP. Music is music. Let it be. Personally, i am here for a project for class. I do not usually listen to things like this, although i play the violin. I usually listen to heavy metal or metalcore. Each person is entitled to their own opinion. Even though i dont listen to this kind of music, I do know how to appreciate hard work. Do any of you actually know how long it took him to write this? I dont think so. It is very hard to put together a piece of any kind.PEACE OUT
ToxicNightmare001 11 months ago
WOW, super gespielt ^^
MegaDani141 11 months ago
@MrBooker39 The fact that you think it is 'fine music' is YOUR problem. If you cannot discern the difference between this and Mendelssohn - or any of the true masters - than there is no point in having this interchange.
organman52 1 year ago
Sorry, old chap...I just listened to this movement again and, other than some similarities in harmonic vocabulary which one would expect, I HEAR no signs of Rheinberger making a cheap copy of the Mendelssohn. I think it's fine music and is beautifully played on a magnificent organ. Again, I'm grateful for the posting.
MrBooker39 1 year ago
@MrBooker39 You might not SEE a resemblance, but do you HEAR one? Either way, any individual who doesn't hear/see that rhinoburger COPIED the Mendelssohn has no business commenting on anything having to do with music.
organman52 1 year ago
@oktav1970 Thanks for the history lesson. But what does anything you say have to do with my original comment? Do you not hear that rhinoberger is cheap imitation? He was good at writing 'models' pieces, although in a style that was already outdated. But don't believe a word I say - you will adhere to the notion that rhinoberger is actually a legitimate composer.
organman52 1 year ago
@organman52 Forget it. Toccatas at the end of an organ performance had been quite common for centuries; and the language of harmonies is already common on ~1800. Mendelssohn and Rheinberger are just part of bigger traditions: look at the French organists for example; in the second half of the century (during the time of Rheinberger), you'll find dozens of toccatas that are quite similar: in France, Germany, Austria and further.
oktav1970 1 year ago
...e noi in Italia...eh??!
Ah, non c'eravamo mica in quei temoi li'....e se "ci eravamo"...dormivamo!
Quanto spreco.....quanti peccati di omisssione.....
In fondo a Dio non servono queste cose....ma , di grazia, Dio parla con ..voi.??!
VERGOGNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
passitelexk43 1 year ago